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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
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Alcatel/TCL Go Flip (6)
Alcatel TCL Flip 2, From Tracfone or Amazon
TCL Classic 4058C, Sold on TCL
TCL Classic, From Cricket
TCL Flip Go, From UScellular
TCL Flip Go, From T-Mobile

Probably the successor to the LG Classic. $20 for the Tracfone version. Runs very well.
TAG can Kasher, Also @kosher_cellutions kashers, and there are people working on a free filter as well.

Update (9/22/22): A free talk/text filter is available. Filter with Waze (and maybe more) coming soon!

Not to be confused with the tcl 4056 phones which look the same but run KaiOs and are much buggier.

LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $400.

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)
•   Can be  koshered: Yes
Decent phone from a well-known manufacturer
Successor to the LG Exalt, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body were shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold . . The street price of $30 is has jumped and it now hovering at about $150.

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone sub-carriers, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon MVNOs, Until it has active service for a year two months.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Not applicable


Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $250

Kyocera DuraXV LTE E-4610
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a slightly bigger, rugged package. And added video playback capability. Great choice if you can find a good one.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme E-4810
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!
Message+ Replaced with a slower clunkier messaging app.

Kazuna eTalk
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Cheap price, cheap quality. Buttons seem to wear out pretty quickly.

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE
Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.
Many many different iterations of these. Some can be filtered. Some cannot. Most are bad phones.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.

Sonim xp3800
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
Unlocked versions available

Great phone, similar to the Kyocera DuraXV series
Can be kashered by TAG

Sunbeam
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Can be purchased kashered by TAG
Has a very good voice-to-text option @ $5 a month

Ans F30 Kosher
Offered by meshimer
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Fig Kosher flip
Sold koshered

Nokia 6300 4G GSM
Sold koshered

Compatible Networks;
•   ATT (4g)
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Other niche options you may want to look into, and up and coming:

Keyphone  https://keyphone.tech
Mindphone  https://greentouchstore.com/pages/mind
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com]T-Mobile
Punkt MP02    https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Find the Kyocera Cadence or Kyocera DuraXV E-4610
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on

Site that allow you to search based on features and network -
https://dumbphones.pory.app/

Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

UPDATE: I switched to the Kyocera Cadence and overall, its pretty good.
I also have answers to my questions. To be very brief:
Real operating systems cost $$$$ and no one is willing to put in that much for a basic phone. They all use android (free) Or KaiOS (free and terrible) which dont come readily set up for a flip and have to be "stuffed in". Fulll android+cheapest hardware= Mess
Its hard for small companies to make their own phone due to the massive costs of certification approval and similar.


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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2660 on: October 13, 2023, 11:51:35 AM »
On the website and on the phone they say I need to complete 12 months of service or incur a $115 fee.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2661 on: October 13, 2023, 12:05:18 PM »
On the website and on the phone they say I need to complete 12 months of service or incur a $115 fee.
to add context, the phone was active for 90 days and has been inactive now for 2-3 months.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2662 on: October 15, 2023, 01:14:46 AM »
Activate with the $10 plan and after 60 days unlock it on via the unlocking website. (The phone does not need to be active for the full 60 days, it just needs to have passed 60 days from activation.)

A little bit more complicated would be to sign up for autopay on the $15 plan. Sign up each phone with its own rewards account and refer every line to each other. Make sure to keep the line active for 2 months so the points post. You will net thousands of TracFone points that you can use to buy more phones. (You get the equivalent of at least $50 for every phone you refer.)
Can I just refer everyone from one line so all the points stay on one account?

And for the $10 plan, I just have to pay for one month, then after 60 days they will unlock it?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2663 on: October 15, 2023, 02:09:45 AM »
Can I just refer everyone from one line so all the points stay on one account?
You get a max of 5 referrals a month per account. so you can have 4/5 referring accounts.
And for the $10 plan, I just have to pay for one month, then after 60 days they will unlock it?
Correct

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2664 on: October 15, 2023, 02:13:53 AM »
On the website and on the phone they say I need to complete 12 months of service or incur a $115 fee.
Ever since Verizon bought out tracfone the new policy is 60 days for new phones activated since November of 2021.

to add context, the phone was active for 90 days and has been inactive now for 2-3 months.
Depends when the phone was activated and if the phone was a refurbished phone that you bought.
 There may be times it won't automatically be eligible for an unlock and you'll have to prove that you bought a refurbished phone and that it was active for 60 days.  You may want to have the service active when your fighting with them to have it unlocked. I have successfully unlocked many phones like that b4. It works with making a phone call and explaining the situation. If you don't succeed with that rep. Call back and try again.

Can I just refer everyone from one line so all the points stay on one account?

And for the $10 plan, I just have to pay for one month, then after 60 days they will unlock it?
To answer your 1st question.
 You can only refer 5 people from each reward account per month. So you would need to wait 4 months to be able to refer all 19 accounts. 5 the 1st month, 6-10 2nd month, 11-15 3rd month...ect..

And to answer your 2nd question.
The autopay discount works per new line for the first two months. You’ll need to pay for 2 months worth of service. Either a garbage plan for $18 for 90 days.
  Or unlmt talk and text for $10 with autopay a month for 2 months costing you $20.


 Now if it was me. Here is what I would do...
If you don't already have an active tracfone account. I can refer you to start your 1st account. You'll get rewards and so will I.

  Now once you have an account active refer yourself 5 times.. make 5 new accounts linking each phone and activating the service. You'll need 5 new email addresses and names and cards... though the +1 and  dot(.) May or may not work. I'm not advocating for that route.

 It's a pain but the most perks will come though all this extra work. The more you refer the more you earn from referring.
 The referral account will get 5 referral bonuses worth and it's own from being referred.

 Then take one of those and refer another 5 and set up those new 5 and again the same for all 20. Assuming they're all new phones and have a sim card inside the phone already. You can use those. If not, you can go to dollar general or some other store to buy a $1 sim card set for tracfone.

 Good luck.

2 random points here.

-They do run promotions here and there where you add a 2nd line, or for each additional line you get 10k points. You may be better off with that. With less work on your end to do. But you'll need to do the research.

And I've also seen where you can use the same sim card and call to use that sim on another phone and that will start the 60 days for that phone and effectively activate multiple phones with only one sim card. I have yet to try that myself with multiple phones and one sim. But I will try this week. As I have a few phones I want to unlock. Though the downside is You’ll lose out on free service vs paying the $20 per phone and getting free service.
  Good luck on which ever route you decide to go.
 
Yes I see @darth mentions one time of $10 Should do the trick. But I don't think that will help if you plan to rack up some rewards.you may need the phone plan active for 60 days for the points to post.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2665 on: October 15, 2023, 02:44:08 AM »
You get a max of 5 referrals a month per account. so you can have 4/5 referring accounts.Correct
The $10 plan you linked, it seems to be only a refill for an existing plan, not for activation.
Am I doing something wrong?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2666 on: October 15, 2023, 02:48:26 AM »
Ever since Verizon bought out tracfone the new policy is 60 days for new phones activated since November of 2021.
 Depends when the phone was activated and if the phone was a refurbished phone that you bought.
 There may be times it won't automatically be eligible for an unlock and you'll have to prove that you bought a refurbished phone and that it was active for 60 days.  You may want to have the service active when your fighting with them to have it unlocked. I have successfully unlocked many phones like that b4. It works with making a phone call and explaining the situation. If you don't succeed with that rep. Call back and try again.
 To answer your 1st question.
 You can only refer 5 people from each reward account per month. So you would need to wait 4 months to be able to refer all 19 accounts. 5 the 1st month, 6-10 2nd month, 11-15 3rd month...ect..

And to answer your 2nd question.
The autopay discount works per new line for the first two months. You’ll need to pay for 2 months worth of service. Either a garbage plan for $18 for 90 days.
  Or unlmt talk and text for $10 with autopay a month for 2 months costing you $20.


 Now if it was me. Here is what I would do...
If you don't already have an active tracfone account. I can refer you to start your 1st account. You'll get rewards and so will I.

  Now once you have an account active refer yourself 5 times.. make 5 new accounts linking each phone and activating the service. You'll need 5 new email addresses and names and cards... though the +1 and  dot(.) May or may not work. I'm not advocating for that route.

 It's a pain but the most perks will come though all this extra work. The more you refer the more you earn from referring.
 The referral account will get 5 referral bonuses worth and it's own from being referred.

 Then take one of those and refer another 5 and set up those new 5 and again the same for all 20. Assuming they're all new phones and have a sim card inside the phone already. You can use those. If not, you can go to dollar general or some other store to buy a $1 sim card set for tracfone.

 Good luck.

2 random points here.

-They do run promotions here and there where you add a 2nd line, or for each additional line you get 10k points. You may be better off with that. With less work on your end to do. But you'll need to do the research.

And I've also seen where you can use the same sim card and call to use that sim on another phone and that will start the 60 days for that phone and effectively activate multiple phones with only one sim card. I have yet to try that myself with multiple phones and one sim. But I will try this week. As I have a few phones I want to unlock. Though the downside is You’ll lose out on free service vs paying the $20 per phone and getting free service.
  Good luck on which ever route you decide to go.
 
Yes I see @darth mentions one time of $10 Should do the trick. But I don't think that will help if you plan to rack up some rewards.you may need the phone plan active for 60 days for the points to post.
Thanks for all the help.
To clarify I want to get these phones unlocked as simply as possible, and don’t care about the service. It seems like the $18 plan is the best option?, as I don’t want to have to deal with cancelling autopay.

Edit: most of these phones are the refurbished ones so I believe I purchased a plan when I bought them.
Would I need to add to that plan or is 30 days enough? Whats the best way to activate them?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2667 on: October 15, 2023, 03:53:32 AM »
Thanks for all the help.
To clarify I want to get these phones unlocked as simply as possible, and don’t care about the service. It seems like the $18 plan is the best option?, as I don’t want to have to deal with cancelling autopay.

Edit: most of these phones are the refurbished ones so I believe I purchased a plan when I bought them.
Would I need to add to that plan or is 30 days enough? Whats the best way to activate them?
That should be enough.
 You can call over the phone and use the automated system to activate them.

The 30 should do it. And then try unlocking after 60 days.
Though text the keyword UNLOCK to 611611 after activating to see if you'll get the phones unlocked after 60 days.

   Did you use one email to buy all the phones? As they link that email you the phones.

 So if you used one email then you can do them all online under one account. Otherwise use the automated system and activate them with that.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2668 on: October 16, 2023, 07:16:25 PM »
Anyone know the method to unlock multiple phones using one SIM card?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2669 on: October 16, 2023, 07:58:10 PM »
Ever since Verizon bought out tracfone the new policy is 60 days for new phones activated since November of 2021.
 Depends when the phone was activated and if the phone was a refurbished phone that you bought.
 There may be times it won't automatically be eligible for an unlock and you'll have to prove that you bought a refurbished phone and that it was active for 60 days.  You may want to have the service active when you’re fighting with them to have it unlocked. I have successfully unlocked many phones like that b4. It works with making a phone call and explaining the situation. If you don't succeed with that rep. Call back and try again.
thanks for your help. I activated (not sure it was necessary) called and they unlocked it. (I then cancelled the service and was refunded)

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2670 on: October 17, 2023, 09:48:10 PM »
thanks for your help. I activated (not sure it was necessary) called and they unlocked it. (I then cancelled the service and was refunded)
Sure, glad it worked.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2671 on: October 21, 2023, 08:35:20 PM »
My LG classic originally on total wireless which is now Total by Verizon stopped making calls a few months ago. This lock signal appeared in top left corner. The sim works in a different phone. Anyone have a solution for this issue?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2672 on: October 21, 2023, 11:18:20 PM »
My LG classic originally on total wireless which is now Total by Verizon stopped making calls a few months ago. This lock signal appeared in top left corner. The sim works in a different phone. Anyone have a solution for this issue?
Did you try calling the carrier? (btw the lock signal has nothing to do with this. go to notifications, it just a prompt to enable screen lock)
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2673 on: October 21, 2023, 11:25:35 PM »
Quote from: Jojo202 Did you try calling the carrier? (btw the lock signal has nothing to do with this. go to notifications, it just a prompt to enable screen lock)
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2674 on: October 22, 2023, 02:04:57 PM »
Any flip phones that work on verizon that have email (gmail) capabilities?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2675 on: October 22, 2023, 03:34:59 PM »
Any flip phones that work on verizon that have email (gmail) capabilities?


Most 4G flip phones have email capability
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2676 on: October 22, 2023, 03:45:42 PM »
Most 4G flip phones have email capability
Some of them do not support modern authentication that some email providers such as office 365 require.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2677 on: October 25, 2023, 12:54:26 AM »
My LG classic originally on total wireless which is now Total by Verizon stopped making calls a few months ago. This lock signal appeared in top left corner. The sim works in a different phone. Anyone have a solution for this issue?
seems like youll need to call tracfone to register the imei number to get that phone back up and running, happens when you play around with your sim.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2678 on: October 25, 2023, 09:29:04 AM »
First time Im seeing this on US Mobile



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