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Re: Charter JFK-TLV for Sukkos $999
« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2016, 04:06:15 PM »
http://www.privatefly.com/us/private-jets/large-airliner-hire/Boeing-747-200

Looks like you can get a direct flight for cheaper (if you fill the plane)
Interesting, though I put in the information to get a price estimate for the JFK-TLV Motzei YK flight and it came out to over $400k for 400 people one way. I guess either their estimate is pretty off or maybe an 11 hour flight from JFK-TLV doesn't run at their average flying cost? Since flying a big plane gets more expensive exponentially when flying a longer range flight compared to a medium range flight, I'm guessing the latter.

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Re: Charter JFK-TLV for Sukkos $999
« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2016, 04:06:58 PM »
That site is not very clear: Is it 350, 450, or 500 seats?
Probably depends on the class config.
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Re: Charter JFK-TLV for Sukkos $999
« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2016, 04:08:08 PM »
Probably depends on the class config.

Of course, but the site seems to imply privatefly.com is offering 450 seats at $17k/hr, so why in the blurb do they write 350-500? It's just confusing.

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Re: Charter JFK-TLV for Sukkos $999
« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2016, 04:09:59 PM »
They probably have a good negotiated rate

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Re: Charter JFK-TLV for Sukkos $999
« Reply #19 on: September 08, 2016, 04:20:06 PM »
They probably have a good negotiated rate

Obviously, privatefly's $17k/hr already factors in their profit as well.

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Re: Charter JFK-TLV for Sukkos $999
« Reply #20 on: September 08, 2016, 04:31:58 PM »
Whose soft product will be better, El AL or Do All?
I think this calls for a TR.

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Re: Charter JFK-TLV for Sukkos $999
« Reply #21 on: September 08, 2016, 04:53:27 PM »
That site is not very clear: Is it 350, 450, or 500 seats?

Assuming 20 hours of flying for the R/T, it comes out to $347,360, or $772 per seat. That assumes they have 450 seats and sell all of them. We also don't know what other overhead/incidentals they have, and how much try risk losing due to unexpected circumstances. But even if they're profiting $229 per person, they're "only" making $100k.
And I'd guess they charge for the 12 days on the ground too... Or they'd fly it back?

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Re: Charter JFK-TLV for Sukkos $999
« Reply #22 on: September 08, 2016, 05:02:42 PM »
Once we're at it, we might as well buy the plane and fly daily. You guys don't think a frum airline with an average price of $999 round-trip for a non stop flight, can't sell out a once a day flight throughout the year?

Even better we won't have to pay flight attendants. We'll just give Yeshiva Bochrim a discount in exchange for them to work on the flight ;D

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Re: Charter JFK-TLV for Sukkos $999
« Reply #23 on: September 08, 2016, 05:04:33 PM »
I find it interesting the time they picked. Lots of ppl want to fly before YK, and not leave MY.
 Though they have more info than me on when peak sukkos demand is, and cost may of been a factor too.


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Re: Charter JFK-TLV for Sukkos $999
« Reply #24 on: September 08, 2016, 06:04:59 PM »
what type of plane? is there any extra costs for luggage? and business class seats?
747
J and f are sold out (j was 3k and f 6k)

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Re: Charter JFK-TLV for Sukkos $999
« Reply #25 on: September 08, 2016, 06:18:20 PM »
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J and f are sold out (j was 3k and f 6k)
Any ideas as to what the J/F looks like?

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Re: Charter JFK-TLV for Sukkos $999
« Reply #26 on: September 08, 2016, 06:27:41 PM »
Any ideas as to what the J/F looks like?
No.
I think she said f has 12 seats and j 30 if that helps.

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Re: Charter JFK-TLV for Sukkos $999
« Reply #27 on: September 08, 2016, 06:58:12 PM »
That site is not very clear: Is it 350, 450, or 500 seats?

Assuming 20 hours of flying for the R/T, it comes out to $347,360, or $772 per seat. That assumes they have 450 seats and sell all of them. We also don't know what other overhead/incidentals they have, and how much try risk losing due to unexpected circumstances. But even if they're profiting $229 per person, they're "only" making $100k.

Of course there are a lot of assumptions. They also might have a relationship with a charter company for some discount.

I don't think they're doing it for a profit as much as for getting some free flights but who knows

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Re: Charter JFK-TLV for Sukkos $999
« Reply #28 on: September 08, 2016, 07:01:22 PM »
What's the best program to credit miles from this flight to?

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Re: Charter JFK-TLV for Sukkos $999
« Reply #29 on: September 08, 2016, 07:02:15 PM »
What's the best program to credit miles from this flight to?
US Airways. It's good because it's one of the only airlines you can status match to LY.
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