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Author Topic: The School Crisis  (Read 35827 times)

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Re: The School Crisis
« Reply #60 on: September 20, 2016, 02:59:24 AM »
My husband and I both work. We consider ourselves chassidish but we're not affiliated with any particular sect. We speak English and Yiddish in our home. We don't have movies or a TV, we both have smartphones + wifi. We're pretty middle class.

I'm not sure what typical means nowadays. I don't buy into the whole double life many MANY people have today where they are chassidish on the outside and barely shomer Shabbos on the inside. With my husband and I- what you see is what you get.

BYBP expected my 4 yr old to be able to write her own name, draw shapes, identify all aleph bet and alphabet.
Gan Yisroel said no uncle Moishy/yeshivah boys choir/smartphones w/o filter
Bais Yaakov of B said no chalav stam (not that it matters. They didn't want us anyway. We don't fit their type)
Munkatch had no reason with their rejection
Satmar said no radio (yes. Apparently were in the 50's)
Both bobavs said no space
Sora schner, Bais shufra Miriam, BYA, prospect park, yeshiva of B, yeshiva of FB, and a few others never responded to my application despite many calls
BY d'rav Meir called us for an interview but I heard from a few people that they (like vien) are way too posh and would never take us. So we didn't even bother running after them
BY18 has a 3 year waiting list and only accepts siblings

Need I go on?
Sorry for speaking bluntly but either wise up & play the game like everyone else  does or move out of BP

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Re: The School Crisis
« Reply #61 on: September 20, 2016, 08:03:29 AM »
Please!! theres way too much emphasis on attempting to shelter their kids. Of course parents have the right to want their kids in a school where the parent body shares their values but theres a point where it becomes ridicules.
plus a million. but they are all still working with the completely false and naive thinking that kids go OTD bc of influence of "bad" friends or exposure
« Last Edit: September 20, 2016, 10:18:37 AM by elit »

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Re: The School Crisis
« Reply #62 on: September 20, 2016, 08:21:03 AM »
Sorry for speaking bluntly but either wise up & play the game like everyone else does or move out of BP

Therein lies another huge issue.

But honestly your advice is solid. I'd recommend moving to a place where you don't have to play games. It ends up creating a nicer life all around.   Having to play games negatively affects honest growth and positive living in Yiddeshkeit.   Unfortunately we're all just so used to it...
« Last Edit: September 20, 2016, 08:25:53 AM by sky121 »
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Re: The School Crisis
« Reply #63 on: September 20, 2016, 09:22:30 AM »
Therein lies another huge issue.

But honestly your advice is solid. I'd recommend moving to a place where you don't have to play games. It ends up creating a nicer life all around.   Having to play games negatively affects honest growth and positive living in Yiddeshkeit.   Unfortunately we're all just so used to it...
im sure a lot of people would like to move out of NYC. But it's easier said then done.

Moving means finding a new job, home, and new friends. Also lots of people want to be near their family.

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Re: The School Crisis
« Reply #64 on: September 20, 2016, 09:34:49 AM »
Are there no better schools in all of NY? The crazy part of all this is SO many people have to 'play games'. Couldn't they have a school where they didn't? There's enough people.
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Re: The School Crisis
« Reply #65 on: September 20, 2016, 09:36:44 AM »
Are there no better schools in all of NY? The crazy part of all this is SO many people have to 'play games'. Couldn't they have a school where they didn't? There's enough people.
as mentioned above by David smith if you have a school that takes anyone no one would want to go there.

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Re: The School Crisis
« Reply #66 on: September 20, 2016, 09:42:45 AM »
I dont get it. Are people here suggesting that the majority of brooklyn hoseholds dont have smartphones and/or internet in their homes!?

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Re: The School Crisis
« Reply #67 on: September 20, 2016, 09:48:48 AM »
I think  we're suggesting the majority "play the game".   
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Re: The School Crisis
« Reply #68 on: September 20, 2016, 09:55:01 AM »
I think  we're suggesting the majority "play the game".
Thats terrible. So not only are we not sheltering our kids we show then that its more important to save face than be honest. We should be commending stbaum for standing up for values instead of telling her to leave town encouraging this sickness.
Eta: and not only are we not actauly sheltering our kids, we're convinced we are so we dont try teaching them how to deal with negative influences. Lovely!
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Re: The School Crisis
« Reply #69 on: September 20, 2016, 11:32:47 AM »
My husband and I both work.
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Satmar said no radio (yes. Apparently were in the 50's)
Does car radio count?
Sora schner, Bais shufra Miriam, BYA, prospect park, yeshiva of B, yeshiva of FB, and a few others never responded to my application despite many calls
Why don't you go to prospect and knock on the door (or kick it in)? Phone calls may not help if they are too busy.
Need I go on?
Did you find a place at the end (that you like)?

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Re: The School Crisis
« Reply #70 on: September 20, 2016, 11:34:27 AM »
Did you find a place at the end (that you like)?
We did. Thank god. And by the skin of our teeth I may add.
Ftr I've found that kicking in doors gives a wrong impression :)
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Re: The School Crisis
« Reply #71 on: September 20, 2016, 11:38:40 AM »
We did. Thank god. And by the skin of our teeth I may add.
MT
Ftr I've found that kicking in doors gives a wrong impression :)
That was a poetic way of saying polite persistence

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Re: The School Crisis
« Reply #72 on: September 20, 2016, 11:39:17 AM »
MT That was a poetic way of saying polite persistence
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« Reply #73 on: September 21, 2016, 02:08:47 PM »
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« Reply #75 on: September 21, 2016, 02:25:39 PM »
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