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DDF DO: Shabbaton Edition

Location:Somewhere in the hills of North Jersey

Date:Dec. 23-25

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Gonna pretend he's Possibly in but will never make it:


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Author Topic: Shabbaton DO Master Thread  (Read 175387 times)

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Re: Shabbaton DO?
« Reply #440 on: December 27, 2015, 08:29:17 PM »
lol!!! I'm only half kidding, though.
This weekend would actually work out nicely for me though...

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Re: Shabbaton DO?
« Reply #441 on: December 27, 2015, 08:40:05 PM »

Just what I need, the entire Jewish world to have my cell phone number.

Could have sworn I saw someone say he was Dan in a group w an OH number. I guess it could have been another Dan but that's confusing. 

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Re: Shabbaton DO?
« Reply #442 on: December 27, 2015, 08:45:23 PM »
Could have sworn I saw someone say he was Dan in a group w an OH number. I guess it could have been another Dan but that's confusing. 
I'm sure Dan is not the only Dan with an OH number ::)
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Re: Shabbaton DO?
« Reply #443 on: December 27, 2015, 08:49:02 PM »
I'll be 100% honest. IMHO the reason it was able to work out so well, is because most of the people there met each other previously and knew each other. I don't think I'd go to a random shabbos DO with someone I literally met online and have no clue who they are.

So if you've never been to a DO and have no clue who anyone else is, don't expect to be invited to a shabbos DO. How should I know that I can trust your karshrus? DDF has the benefits of having people from all spectrums and everyone has their own opinion regarding kashrus.
I think this should be obvious, and not just because of the food. A shabbos isn't a DO. Most people would be game to go to a restaurant to meet new people without putting too much thought into it. If you like it, you stay; if not, you walk out politely, with nobody thinking twice. A shabbos is a much bigger commitment, and requires a higher comfort level. I would think most people would rather not spend shabbos with a bunch of strangers. Additionally, if you're spending shabbos with your friends, you'd rather not have a bunch of strangers getting in the way. Of course, if one of your friends knows somebody and says he would be compatible, he'd be welcomed, but the core group would be a bunch of friends, i would think. Forget about the food and the kashrus; do you want to have a joint meal with a bunch of people you don't know from a hole in the wall? A DO is a great non committal way to meet strangers; a shabbos not run by a central program, maybe not so much. The problem is that everyone wants to be that fly on the wall that gets in on the sooper seekrets. A low level shabbos may not generate so much interest, but when people hear about a bunch of "names" that were involved, they get upset that they didn't have a chance to join. My opinion? Get together a couple of your personal friends from DDF (anybody expecting to go to a ddf shabbaton must have a couple of those), and once you have a core group, invite people that you think would be interested and compatible based on what you know about them. It'll get a lot further than being a silent guy on a friendly WhatsApp group, that is the first to pipe up when someone suggests a get together. Just my $.02. (I have yet to hit up a DO, so I'm not really one to talk, but this same scenario and dynamics manifests itself in so many places.)
Who do you think you are fooling? You think you are going to pull a quick one on your Creator? Good luck with that.
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Re: Shabbaton DO?
« Reply #444 on: December 27, 2015, 08:52:09 PM »
FYI - I only met 2/10 of the guys in real life before Shabbos. One I know well, and one I met once for 10 minutes.

A great time was had by all and I made some new friends!

A Shabbos is not a long term comittment!
« Last Edit: December 27, 2015, 09:08:36 PM by MarkS »

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Re: Shabbaton DO?
« Reply #445 on: December 27, 2015, 09:31:26 PM »
I think this should be obvious, and not just because of the food. A shabbos isn't a DO. Most people would be game to go to a restaurant to meet new people without putting too much thought into it. If you like it, you stay; if not, you walk out politely, with nobody thinking twice. A shabbos is a much bigger commitment, and requires a higher comfort level. I would think most people would rather not spend shabbos with a bunch of strangers. Additionally, if you're spending shabbos with your friends, you'd rather not have a bunch of strangers getting in the way. Of course, if one of your friends knows somebody and says he would be compatible, he'd be welcomed, but the core group would be a bunch of friends, i would think. Forget about the food and the kashrus; do you want to have a joint meal with a bunch of people you don't know from a hole in the wall? A DO is a great non committal way to meet strangers; a shabbos not run by a central program, maybe not so much. The problem is that everyone wants to be that fly on the wall that gets in on the sooper seekrets. A low level shabbos may not generate so much interest, but when people hear about a bunch of "names" that were involved, they get upset that they didn't have a chance to join. My opinion? Get together a couple of your personal friends from DDF (anybody expecting to go to a ddf shabbaton must have a couple of those), and once you have a core group, invite people that you think would be interested and compatible based on what you know about them. It'll get a lot further than being a silent guy on a friendly WhatsApp group, that is the first to pipe up when someone suggests a get together. Just my $.02. (I have yet to hit up a DO, so I'm not really one to talk, but this same scenario and dynamics manifests itself in so many places.)
I went to peoples houses for meals. One i met once, the other never. Worked out quite well I'd say.

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Re: Shabbaton DO?
« Reply #446 on: December 27, 2015, 09:51:16 PM »
I went to peoples houses for meals. One i met once, the other never. Worked out quite well I'd say.

If you think otherwise you can tell me you know who you are.
Going to someone for shabbos is different than putting together a shabbaton.
Who do you think you are fooling? You think you are going to pull a quick one on your Creator? Good luck with that.
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Re: Shabbaton DO?
« Reply #447 on: December 27, 2015, 09:52:43 PM »
FYI - I only met 2/10 of the guys in real life before Shabbos. One I know well, and one I met once for 10 minutes.

A great time was had by all and I made some new friends!

A Shabbos is not a long term comittment!
Haha.
Only knew 1/10, and that was from previous DO. It was fun meeting new people, but the fact that there was core group def helped.
And I've been to Shabbos meals by ppl I only knew from DDF

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Re: Shabbaton DO?
« Reply #448 on: December 27, 2015, 10:05:59 PM »
I think what happened here was that weekend plans were made privately by a group of ppl that happen to frequent ddf . Nobody has a problem with such events occurring as I'm sure they happen all the time. However when a public thank you went out on the shabbos do thread to all those who attended ppl misunderstood it as having been a public event which they missed out on and regretted not partaking in it.

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Re: Shabbaton DO?
« Reply #449 on: December 27, 2015, 10:51:59 PM »
FYI - I only met 2/10 of the guys in real life before Shabbos. One I know well, and one I met once for 10 minutes.
Well I wouldn't consider you someone I know well, nor did we meet for only 10 minutes. Was more like a half hour.

So you now probably know 3/10.



A Shabbos is not a long term comittment!
Well if she ever calls me back, then a long term commitment could be had from such a shabbos.
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Re: Shabbaton DO?
« Reply #450 on: December 27, 2015, 11:23:10 PM »
Just out of curiosity, what percentage of attendees were single?

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Re: Shabbaton DO?
« Reply #451 on: December 27, 2015, 11:28:39 PM »
Just out of curiosity, what percentage of attendees were single?
55.5 including a couple real young ones

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Re: Shabbaton DO?
« Reply #452 on: December 27, 2015, 11:29:10 PM »
Just out of curiosity, what percentage of attendees were single?
42.8% not incl. the really young ones ;)
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Re: Shabbaton DO?
« Reply #453 on: December 27, 2015, 11:33:28 PM »
55.5 including a couple real young ones

42.8% not incl. the really young ones ;)
IOW, 6 adults and 4 children.
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Re: Shabbaton DO?
« Reply #454 on: December 27, 2015, 11:34:17 PM »
IOW, 6 adults and 4 children.
Look at this mathematician!

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Re: Shabbaton DO?
« Reply #455 on: December 27, 2015, 11:36:50 PM »
Look at this mathematician!
That would mean you had exactly a minyan.
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Re: Shabbaton DO?
« Reply #456 on: December 27, 2015, 11:38:35 PM »
That would mean you had exactly a minyan.
correct. we were limited on space, so we wanted exactly a minyan. not more or less

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Re: Shabbaton DO?
« Reply #457 on: December 27, 2015, 11:39:26 PM »
That would mean you had exactly a minyan.
It does not mean that as there could have been other yidden in the hotel.
But you should consider becoming an acturary. Your logic skills are sound

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Re: Shabbaton DO?
« Reply #458 on: December 27, 2015, 11:41:17 PM »
correct. we were limited on space, so we wanted exactly a minyan. not more or less
I didn't know one of you was married. I guess i know now.
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Re: Shabbaton DO?
« Reply #459 on: December 27, 2015, 11:43:32 PM »
It does not mean that as there could have been other yidden in the hotel.
It actually does mean that, logically.
Who do you think you are fooling? You think you are going to pull a quick one on your Creator? Good luck with that.
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