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Re: Please help me understand/make a miles ticket
« Reply #15 on: September 26, 2016, 10:09:36 AM »
Yeah, that's more what i was looking for. The ticket seems easy to find, though i was wondering if it seemed good and all.

I have no miles or know much about them. I've heard people talk about purchasing them but i have no idea what i need first, or even whom to go to. I was hoping a post on DDF forums would send me in the right direction with a bit of good and useful advice.
I don't know if this is great advice (some of the experts here can correct me), but maybe call miles brokers such as PEYD.

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Re: Please help me understand/make a miles ticket
« Reply #16 on: September 26, 2016, 10:12:29 AM »

Yeah, that's more what i was looking for. The ticket seems easy to find, though i was wondering if it seemed good and all.

I have no miles or know much about them. I've heard people talk about purchasing them but i have no idea what i need first, or even whom to go to. I was hoping a post on DDF forums would send me in the right direction with a bit of good and useful advice.
The link I posted before is the right neighborhood. Here are 2 threads that should be helpful:
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=12138.0
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=16069.0

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Re: Please help me understand/make a miles ticket
« Reply #17 on: September 26, 2016, 10:13:35 AM »
Hello:

AF is a rewards partner of Flying Blue, which is actually the program which charges the least from North America to TLV, so kudos to you for realizing that.

A good thing about Flying Blue is that they are transfer partners of nearly every credit card program, so essentially you need to find a credit card, or a combination of them, which will award you as many points as you need. Keep in mind that 25k is for one way, so double it for a r/t for one person, etc...

At the moment, a "hot" credit card is the Chase Sapphire Reserve Card, as it includes may great perks, including 100,000 UR points upon meeting the spending threshold. You can also see if you can find a nice Amex Platinum offer. Keep in mind that these are considered luxury credit cards, and that not everyone will be approved. If you do choose to apply for this card, or any other card, please try to use Dan's referral link.

At the end of the billing cycle in which you have met your spending threshold, you will receive your point bonus, which you can then transfer to Flying Blue and book your tickets.

CAVEAT: Everything I just mentioned is only one of many options for you to get to Israel. As everyone here correctly mentioned, there is no substitute for educating yourself on this subject.

Good luck!

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Re: Please help me understand/make a miles ticket
« Reply #18 on: September 26, 2016, 10:13:47 AM »
are you looking to go coach, or are you interested in flying business class.
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Re: Please help me understand/make a miles ticket
« Reply #19 on: September 26, 2016, 10:14:10 AM »
Yeah, that's more what i was looking for. The ticket seems easy to find, though i was wondering if it seemed good and all.

I have no miles or know much about them. I've heard people talk about purchasing them but i have no idea what i need first, or even whom to go to. I was hoping a post on DDF forums would send me in the right direction with a bit of good and useful advice.
It really depends what the cash price is for the equivalent ticket. The way you would figure it out would be once you know which mileage ticket you want, try to find a broker that will sell you miles. (Most of the ones that advertise in the frum media that they buy miles will sell them to you too [however at a significant increase to what their market value is]). Once you have that info it's just a matter of dollars and sense.

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Re: Please help me understand/make a miles ticket
« Reply #20 on: September 26, 2016, 10:19:28 AM »
No, I did that for him.

I certainly hope a beginner would be treated with more respect in a bais medrash than newbies are treated here.

Besides, he also needs specific information. Compare (l'havdil) to asking a posek a shailah. I would hope the posek wouldn't react like some people sometimes react here.
Not the same. The original question was very general, not yes or no. He clarified a lot in subsequent posts. FWIW if you think that's a nasty welcome, this is from the better welcomes on DDF.

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Re: Please help me understand/make a miles ticket
« Reply #21 on: September 26, 2016, 10:22:05 AM »
It takes years of accumulated knowledge to know how to search here.
Now you tell me ?? >:(

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Re: Please help me understand/make a miles ticket
« Reply #22 on: September 26, 2016, 10:23:16 AM »
Lots of great info here (make sure it's current, though):
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/85466
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/68732

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Re: Please help me understand/make a miles ticket
« Reply #23 on: September 26, 2016, 10:24:26 AM »
Not the same. The original question was very general, not yes or no. He clarified a lot in subsequent posts. FWIW if you think that's a nasty welcome, this is from the better welcomes on DDF.
There was a general question, and a specific question.

Yes, this was not the worst welcome. That doesn't say much for the menchlichkeit of the forum, does it?

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Re: Please help me understand/make a miles ticket
« Reply #24 on: September 26, 2016, 10:24:44 AM »
Now you tell me ?? >:(
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Re: Please help me understand/make a miles ticket
« Reply #25 on: September 26, 2016, 02:01:05 PM »
AF is a rewards partner of Flying Blue, which is actually the program which charges the least from North America to TLV, so kudos to you for realizing that.

A good thing about Flying Blue is that they are transfer partners of nearly every credit card program, so essentially you need to find a credit card, or a combination of them, which will award you as many points as you need. Keep in mind that 25k is for one way, so double it for a r/t for one person, etc...

At the moment, a "hot" credit card is the Chase Sapphire Reserve Card, as it includes may great perks, including 100,000 UR points upon meeting the spending threshold. You can also see if you can find a nice Amex Platinum offer. Keep in mind that these are considered luxury credit cards, and that not everyone will be approved. If you do choose to apply for this card, or any other card, please try to use Dan's referral link.

At the end of the billing cycle in which you have met your spending threshold, you will receive your point bonus, which you can then transfer to Flying Blue and book your tickets.

Thank you.

Fwiw, it was actually my brother who found it.

That's a lot of good information. But, the main point is i want to make a ticket for one month from now. I don't think i have enough time to get into a new card and spend the required amounts.

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Re: Please help me understand/make a miles ticket
« Reply #26 on: September 26, 2016, 02:05:05 PM »
are you looking to go coach, or are you interested in flying business class.

I am probably going to go coach due to cost. That being said, last time i came back from EY, someone upgraded me to a business class ticket, and it was a window seat at the bulkhead, on Lufthansa. I would love to do that again.

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Re: Please help me understand/make a miles ticket
« Reply #27 on: September 26, 2016, 02:26:15 PM »
Thank you.

Fwiw, it was actually my brother who found it.

That's a lot of good information. But, the main point is i want to make a ticket for one month from now. I don't think i have enough time to get into a new card and spend the required amounts.
Does your brother have miles?
Who do you think you are fooling? You think you are going to pull a quick one on your Creator? Good luck with that.
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Re: Please help me understand/make a miles ticket
« Reply #28 on: September 26, 2016, 02:27:42 PM »
It really depends what the cash price is for the equivalent ticket. The way you would figure it out would be once you know which mileage ticket you want, try to find a broker that will sell you miles.

Good point.

According to ITA Matrix, the cheapest round trip would be $970 Canadian if i left from Toronto, or $1058 if from Detroit. One way, is $799 Canadian from Toronto, or $923 from Detroit. I'm checking for Toronto, since it's just a few hours away, and can be worth it for some flights.

For this, i guess i would work with the round trip cost from Detroit, because if i paid cash, the second way costs just $135. I am not sure i would buy both now with miles, because i may not come back then. (Unless it is a deal i should not pass up.) Anyway, let's compare:

RT vs RT: $1058.  Subtract the ~$145 that the Air France has anyway, twice, leaving $768. Cash vs 50,000 miles. 913 / 50000 = 0.01826.
OW vs OW: $923. Subtract the ~$145, left with 778. Cash vs 25,000 miles, 778 / 25000 = 0.03112.

Am i doing it right so far?

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Re: Please help me understand/make a miles ticket
« Reply #29 on: September 26, 2016, 02:28:31 PM »
Does your brother have miles?

Not really. I asked him this morning.