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Re: Public letter
« Reply #160 on: October 07, 2016, 04:40:16 PM »
Although to be fair, that may be influenced by the political climate.

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Re: Public letter
« Reply #161 on: October 07, 2016, 04:48:41 PM »
Conversion therapy has been found to be a crock by the law. There is no need to wait for studies to mature. New Jersey courts allowed a "Rabbi" to be sued for his "conversion therapies"
Results regarding "conversion therapy" do not reflect at all on conversion therapy
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Re: Public letter
« Reply #162 on: October 07, 2016, 05:18:38 PM »
Results regarding "conversion therapy" do not reflect at all on conversion therapy

Can you please explain?

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Re: Public letter
« Reply #163 on: October 07, 2016, 05:43:38 PM »
Those who confide in the right people, e.g. rabbonim, are treated (I assume) like someone who suffers from depression, and are referred, I would hope, to the appropriate professionals.

There are many different organizations for people who feel unconnected to Judaism, or are rebelling against it, to help them come back to thier roots. This problem is not large enough yet (god willing never) for organizations to be created (unless their are organizations I dont know of).

Would you accept a OTD boy into a ultra-orthodox yeshiva? No, you send him somewhere to help him in ways he needs. So to here you'll have to find a way to help this kid without tarnishing many other kids mindset.

There most definitely are Rabbis and organizations who are involved in helping these people I personally know of someone who was helped with this issue and BH today he's a normal boy identifies as a male and I believe attracted to the opposite gender

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Re: Public letter
« Reply #164 on: October 07, 2016, 05:44:27 PM »
There most definitely are Rabbis and organizations who are involved in helping these people I personally know of someone who was helped with this issue and BH today he's a normal boy identifies as a male and I believe attracted to the opposite gender
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Re: Public letter
« Reply #165 on: January 04, 2017, 09:02:41 PM »
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Re: Public letter
« Reply #166 on: January 04, 2017, 09:03:40 PM »
Woah. Reviving some old stale popcorn...

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Re: Public letter
« Reply #167 on: January 04, 2017, 09:09:54 PM »
Woah. Reviving some old stale popcorn...
It has been rather quiet lately.
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Re: Public letter
« Reply #168 on: January 04, 2017, 09:11:11 PM »
Lol
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Moskowitz has background and experience that give his words more weight than those of most rabbis: he has a master's in Talmudic law, an advanced degree in Talmud, is working on his doctorate in Hebrew literature, and has received several rabbinical ordinations.

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Re: Public letter
« Reply #169 on: January 04, 2017, 09:24:05 PM »
Lol
is that not a good enough prerequisite you?
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Re: Public letter
« Reply #170 on: January 04, 2017, 09:50:07 PM »
I saw a sign in a pizza shop that said "we don't serve pizza, we serve people"

I dont eat there anymore
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Re: Public letter
« Reply #174 on: January 12, 2017, 09:04:50 AM »
Why is it different than any other lo sasei?
Most other lo saseis don't have the funding that this one has to push it's agenda. And people who engage in them don't have organizations with the sole goal of legitimizing the behavior and changing religious beliefs like this one

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Re: Public letter
« Reply #175 on: January 12, 2017, 09:10:33 AM »
Why is it different than any other lo sasei?
Because those that believe in the legitimacy of modern culture as a Jewish value, have an existential conflict and crises over this issue.

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Re: Public letter
« Reply #176 on: January 12, 2017, 09:17:33 AM »
Because those that believe in the legitimacy of modern culture as a Jewish value, have an existential conflict and crises over this issue.
This is the only lo sasei that contradicts modern social values?
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Re: Public letter
« Reply #177 on: January 12, 2017, 09:31:35 AM »
Why is it different than any other lo sasei?
Those who have a taava for this feel that it is a part of the essence of their being contrasted to the language of strong repugnance the torah uses regarding this behavior makes a potent mix.
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Re: Public letter
« Reply #178 on: January 12, 2017, 09:32:11 AM »
I thought the letter from R' Feldman linked in the article was beautiful
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Re: Public letter
« Reply #179 on: January 12, 2017, 09:35:11 AM »
This is the only lo sasei that contradicts modern social values?
That has kareis?
I don't see society pushing religious groups to accept eishes ish, or similar arayos.