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Re: Public letter
« Reply #280 on: August 06, 2018, 05:21:23 PM »
Have not listened to the shiur, but 1) from the descriptions you're using, it sounds like what he's saying is based on jewish mysticism, and 2) This is the guy who used to be a professional surfer, pretty sure he's both been out there and knows what's going on out there.

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Re: Public letter
« Reply #281 on: August 06, 2018, 05:38:45 PM »
Second of all I donít think he meant the actual items rather the actions they do.  He was saying the world is full of actions that relate to the masculine and feminine interaction
When he says water is masculine and the cup is feminine is he talking about sexual terms?
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Re: Public letter
« Reply #282 on: August 06, 2018, 06:33:02 PM »
Maybe he's speaking metaphorically? Come on, @ChaimMoskowitz. You don't have to be so concrete.

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Re: Public letter
« Reply #283 on: August 06, 2018, 06:47:34 PM »
Maybe he's speaking metaphorically? Come on, @ChaimMoskowitz. You don't have to be so concrete.
Trying to figure why anyone would refer to water/cup that way. Being he is a religious leader I give him the benefit but if it was a regular person I would be asking what kind of sickO the person was.
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Re: Public letter
« Reply #284 on: August 06, 2018, 08:48:50 PM »
Trying to figure why anyone would refer to water/cup that way. Being he is a religious leader I give him the benefit but if it was a regular person I would be asking what kind of sickO the person was.

I was looking to buy mini, micro and type c USB converters today, and all the perverted sellers on Amazon are calling them male and female and whatnot. It's an horrendous world out there.
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Re: Public letter
« Reply #285 on: August 06, 2018, 08:51:58 PM »
I was looking to buy mini, micro and type c USB converters today, and all the perverted sellers on Amazon are calling them male and female and whatnot. It's an horrendous world out there.
LOL
If you go to Wal-Mart and see water/cups referred to as male/female let me know.  ;)
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Re: Public letter
« Reply #286 on: August 06, 2018, 08:56:21 PM »
LOL
If you go to Wal-Mart and see water/cups referred to as male/female let me know.  ;)
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Re: Public letter
« Reply #287 on: August 06, 2018, 09:00:18 PM »
LOL
If you go to Wal-Mart and see water/cups referred to as male/female let me know.  ;)

If I were to say that on this subject you're being as dense as a cholent, would you think I'm calling you a slow cooked stew?
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Re: Public letter
« Reply #288 on: August 06, 2018, 09:01:06 PM »
I was LOL while trying to like your post, which proved to be a difficult task. Mouse pointer kept moving.
I am posting trying to use a Q-tip. I now feel so dirty!  ;)
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Re: Public letter
« Reply #289 on: August 06, 2018, 09:03:18 PM »
If I were to say that on this subject you're being as dense as a cholent, would you think I'm calling you a slow cooked stew?
I didn't think cholent is dense.
Look there was 1000+ examples he could have used. Water/cup is not one of them.
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Re: Public letter
« Reply #290 on: August 06, 2018, 09:15:38 PM »
I didn't think cholent is dense.
Look there was 1000+ examples he could have used. Water/cup is not one of them.
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Re: Public letter
« Reply #291 on: August 07, 2018, 08:00:20 AM »
Have not listened to the shiur, but 1) from the descriptions you're using, it sounds like what he's saying is based on jewish mysticism.

+1. The Rabbi didn't come up with the idea.

When he says water is masculine and the cup is feminine is he talking about sexual terms?

Perhaps someone with more extensive Kabbalastic knowledge can back me up, but I believe the (in overly simplified terms) idea is that all of Creation (including but not limited to sexuality) breaks down into the original duplicity of the Male/Female dynamic.

One is an expanding force and the other is a containing force. I think water/cup can illustrate the idea pretty well. At the fusion of these opposite forces is where creation happens.
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Re: Public letter
« Reply #292 on: August 07, 2018, 08:13:11 AM »
I was looking to buy mini, micro and type c USB converters today, and all the perverted sellers on Amazon are calling them male and female and whatnot. It's an horrendous world out there.
can'tyou see the difference between water and electronics?!
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Re: Public letter
« Reply #293 on: August 07, 2018, 10:49:55 PM »
+1. The Rabbi didn't come up with the idea.

Perhaps someone with more extensive Kabbalastic knowledge can back me up, but I believe the (in overly simplified terms) idea is that all of Creation (including but not limited to sexuality) breaks down into the original duplicity of the Male/Female dynamic.

One is an expanding force and the other is a containing force. I think water/cup can illustrate the idea pretty well. At the fusion of these opposite forces is where creation happens.
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Re: Public letter
« Reply #294 on: August 08, 2018, 05:47:58 AM »
When he says water is masculine and the cup is feminine is he talking about sexual terms?

Hebrew, like some other languages (I believe German is one of them) assigns gender to inanimate objects. On a superficial level, water is treated as masculine grammatically and cups are treated as feminine.  Since Hebrew was created by God, the gender assignments of various nouns are not assumed to be arbitrary but rather tied to the nature of that noun in some way.  Various disciplines of Jewish thought deal with ideas derived from the gender of particular things, among them Kabala, which I know very little about.

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Re: Public letter
« Reply #295 on: August 08, 2018, 08:20:40 AM »
Hebrew, like some other languages (I believe German is one of them) assigns gender to inanimate objects. On a superficial level, water is treated as masculine grammatically and cups are treated as feminine.  Since Hebrew was created by God, the gender assignments of various nouns are not assumed to be arbitrary but rather tied to the nature of that noun in some way.  Various disciplines of Jewish thought deal with ideas derived from the gender of particular things, among them Kabala, which I know very little about.
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I don't think this has anything to do with grammatical gender.

IINM cups can be both grammatically.
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Re: Public letter
« Reply #296 on: August 08, 2018, 08:35:37 AM »
WOW, it was a non-loaded simple question.  :)
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Re: Public letter
« Reply #297 on: August 08, 2018, 09:06:18 AM »
WOW, it was a non-loaded simple question.  :)
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Re: Public letter
« Reply #298 on: August 08, 2018, 10:01:34 AM »
King Solomon said a parable about parables. A candle worth a penny was used to find a golden coin that had been lost.
The parable itself is just the cheap candle. But the idea that it illuminates can be priceless.

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Re: Public letter
« Reply #299 on: August 08, 2018, 10:05:28 AM »
King Solomon said a parable about parables. A candle worth a penny was used to find a golden coin that had been lost.
The parable itself is just the cheap candle. But the idea that it illuminates can be priceless.
I thought that was Visa.
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