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Re: Public letter
« Reply #40 on: September 26, 2016, 05:30:10 PM »
If people know him under his username...duh! Why did this whole thread turn into a "bash-the-OP-for-not-using-his-real-username" thread? Give him a break!
Not bashing. Just dont understand what he is afraid of. Especially if he disagrees with the opinion of this rabbi.
If anything, ones credibility is stronger when using his real username, and his opinions will be more accepted.
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Re: Public letter
« Reply #41 on: September 26, 2016, 05:30:23 PM »
I think this thread is too personal about an individual and should be deleted.
If it's real isn't it what the letter writer intended?

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Re: Public letter
« Reply #42 on: September 26, 2016, 05:30:54 PM »
Not bashing. Just dont understand what he is afraid of. Especially if he disagrees with the opinion of this rabbi.
If anything, ones credibility is stronger when using his real username, and his opinions will be more accepted.
True. But for whatever reason this time he doesn't want to use his username. What's the big deal

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Re: Public letter
« Reply #43 on: September 26, 2016, 05:35:04 PM »
True. But for whatever reason this time he doesn't want to use his username. What's the big deal
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Re: Public letter
« Reply #44 on: September 26, 2016, 05:36:10 PM »
I don't see this on the supposed author's facebook. 

I think this is likely a malicious "outing" of his kid.

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Re: Public letter
« Reply #45 on: September 26, 2016, 05:40:18 PM »
I am going to out on a limb and say transgender kids would not be welcomed in most of the schools. Would that be accurate?
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Re: Public letter
« Reply #46 on: September 26, 2016, 05:45:39 PM »
I don't know anything about this (sad) situation, but as far as credentials go...

He may have once been in BMG, but he is currently going for a doctorate at JTS.


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Re: Public letter
« Reply #47 on: September 26, 2016, 05:49:03 PM »
I am going to out on a limb and say transgender kids would not be welcomed in most of the schools. Would that be accurate?
You can hear how it would be complicated in a non co-ed school.
I'm guessing most catholic schools would be similar.
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Re: Public letter
« Reply #48 on: September 26, 2016, 05:54:34 PM »
I don't see this on the supposed author's facebook. 

I think this is likely a malicious "outing" of his kid.

It wasn't posted on his Facebook. It was written for someone else, and he was then asked if it could be shared publicly.

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Re: Public letter
« Reply #49 on: September 26, 2016, 06:09:47 PM »
It wasn't posted on his Facebook. It was written for someone else, and he was then asked if it could be shared publicly.

Right.  Allegedly asked.

Or more likely,  not asked

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Re: Public letter
« Reply #50 on: September 26, 2016, 06:13:18 PM »
Right.  Allegedly asked.

Or more likely,  not asked

He was asked in the thread, and he answered there.

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Re: Public letter
« Reply #51 on: September 26, 2016, 06:21:54 PM »
I don't know anything about this (sad) situation, but as far as credentials go...

He may have once been in BMG, but he is currently going for a doctorate at JTS.
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Re: Public letter
« Reply #52 on: September 26, 2016, 06:24:47 PM »
I may be suffering from a lack of imagination, but I have a hard time understanding how a child could become transgender with out the assistance of his parents.

If I am correct, that leaves the parent somewhat uniquely unqualified to speak in the name of Orthodoxy.  If Columbia Alum is correct, that is another dis-qualifier.

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Re: Public letter
« Reply #53 on: September 26, 2016, 06:26:43 PM »
I may be suffering from a lack of imagination, but I have a hard time understanding how a child could become transgender with out the assistance of his parents.
Why would that be?
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Re: Public letter
« Reply #54 on: September 26, 2016, 06:31:34 PM »
Why would that be?

I assumed this meaning of child.  I now realize that may have been a mistaken assumption.

child
CHīld/
noun
noun: child; plural noun: children

    a young human being below the age of puberty or below the legal age of majority.
 
        a son or daughter of any age.
        an immature or irresponsible person.
        "she's such a child!"

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Re: Public letter
« Reply #55 on: September 26, 2016, 06:34:43 PM »
I assumed this meaning of child.  I now realize that may have been a mistaken assumption.

child
CHīld/
noun
noun: child; plural noun: children

    a young human being below the age of puberty or below the legal age of majority.
 
        a son or daughter of any age.
        an immature or irresponsible person.
        "she's such a child!"
I don't think the discussion is about a post-op transgender child. Though I agree with your point anyway.

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Re: Public letter
« Reply #56 on: September 26, 2016, 06:40:52 PM »
I don't think the discussion is about a post-op transgender child. Though I agree with your point anyway.

I was not assuming post-op.  I don't want to get in to details, but I'll say that while I can understand same sex attraction developing without conscious promotion by the parents,  I don't see how a transgender identity can develop without either parental promotion or gross parental neglect, perhaps barring extreme cases of mental illness (delusional.)

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Re: Public letter
« Reply #57 on: September 26, 2016, 06:45:09 PM »
I was not assuming post-op.  I don't want to get in to details, but I'll say that while I can understand same sex attraction developing without conscious promotion by the parents,  I don't see how a transgender identity can develop without either parental promotion or gross parental neglect, perhaps barring extreme cases of mental illness (delusional.)

Because you're assuming it's something that develops.

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Re: Public letter
« Reply #58 on: September 26, 2016, 06:48:06 PM »


I was not assuming post-op.  I don't want to get in to details, but I'll say that while I can understand same sex attraction developing without conscious promotion by the parents,  I don't see how a transgender identity can develop without either parental promotion or gross parental neglect, perhaps barring extreme cases of mental illness (delusional.)

Right, I saw the post about puberty in the definition and started editing, but then saw you responded already.

I agree with the basic point you expressed.

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Re: Public letter
« Reply #59 on: September 26, 2016, 06:49:10 PM »
Because you're assuming it's something that develops.

Correct!  :)