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Re: Public letter
« Reply #100 on: October 06, 2016, 11:57:00 AM »
How does that apply to the transgender issue?

Just because a man feels like a woman, does not mean he has to dress like one. (Especially since we've been told for the last 50+ years that there is no difference between men and women)

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Re: Public letter
« Reply #101 on: October 06, 2016, 12:01:04 PM »
I have a disorder where I feel like I am a davar yesh bifnei atzmo while in truth I am really ayin v'efes mamash. It causes me a lot of distress and I have been trying to transition to my real identity.
Don't we all... I guess the disorder could be simply put we want to believe yesh m'ayin ... although if we were truly ayin then we can't possibly have that disorder...

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Re: Public letter
« Reply #102 on: October 06, 2016, 12:09:57 PM »
I have a disorder where I feel like I am a davar yesh bifnei atzmo while in truth I am really ayin v'efes mamash. It causes me a lot of distress and I have been trying to transition to my real identity.
We will all be metzamtem and you can feel a little less distressed.
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Re: Public letter
« Reply #103 on: October 06, 2016, 12:25:39 PM »
Is that why your new signature is a ghost? Since those are Ayin V'Efes Mamash?

A ghost is still a yesh.

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Re: Public letter
« Reply #104 on: October 06, 2016, 12:36:03 PM »


Just because a man feels like a woman, does not mean he has to dress like one. (Especially since we've been told for the last 50+ years that there is no difference between men and women)
One of the greatest fallacies of the trans movement. Until now telling women that they belong in dresses and high heels was sexism now if a man feels like a women he must dress in dresses put on makeup and wear high heels...

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Re: Public letter
« Reply #105 on: October 06, 2016, 01:13:00 PM »
One of the greatest fallacies of the trans movement. Until now telling women that they belong in dresses and high heels was sexism now if a man feels like a women he must dress in dresses put on makeup and wear high heels...
Where did you get that from? She can dress anyway she wants.
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Re: Public letter
« Reply #106 on: October 06, 2016, 01:13:51 PM »
See Catlyn Jenner and many others

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Re: Public letter
« Reply #107 on: October 06, 2016, 02:33:51 PM »
See Catlyn Jenner and many others

 :o

That's because they decide to.  No one is forcing a male-to-female transgender person to dress as a female.  Completely flawed argument that you seem to think is some huge fallacy. 

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Re: Public letter
« Reply #108 on: October 06, 2016, 03:01:41 PM »
:o

That's because they decide to.  No one is forcing a male-to-female transgender person to dress as a female.  Completely flawed argument that you seem to think is some huge fallacy.
+1000
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Re: Public letter
« Reply #109 on: October 06, 2016, 03:53:37 PM »


he can dress anyway he wants.
Still not Friday yet.

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Re: Public letter
« Reply #110 on: October 06, 2016, 04:10:16 PM »
Still not Friday yet.
I don't think it was meant as popcorn
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Re: Public letter
« Reply #111 on: October 06, 2016, 04:11:02 PM »
I don't think it was meant as popcorn
Nonetheless it was.

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Re: Public letter
« Reply #112 on: October 06, 2016, 04:26:04 PM »
I must admit that the line we dont teach torah we teach children was very nice even though I dont agree with his conclusion.

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Re: Public letter
« Reply #113 on: October 06, 2016, 06:17:09 PM »
:o

That's because they decide to.  No one is forcing a male-to-female transgender person to dress as a female.  Completely flawed argument that you seem to think is some huge fallacy.
I did not want to get involved in this discussion and I had a momentary slip. To explain myself would just drag me in even more so I will respectfully bow out

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Re: Public letter
« Reply #114 on: October 06, 2016, 06:49:17 PM »
I did not want to get involved in this discussion and I had a momentary slip. To explain myself would just drag me in even more so I will respectfully bow out

Ok.

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Re: Public letter
« Reply #115 on: October 06, 2016, 09:28:03 PM »
I did not want to get involved in this discussion and I had a momentary slip. To explain myself would just drag me in even more so I will respectfully bow out

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Re: Public letter
« Reply #116 on: October 06, 2016, 10:16:37 PM »

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Re: Public letter
« Reply #117 on: October 06, 2016, 11:49:54 PM »
I must admit that the line we dont teach torah we teach children was very nice even though I dont agree with his conclusion.

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Re: Public letter
« Reply #118 on: October 07, 2016, 08:14:34 AM »
I must admit that the line we dont teach torah we teach children was very nice even though I dont agree with his conclusion.

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What does it mean at all? We teach children to Torah?
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Public letter
« Reply #119 on: October 07, 2016, 08:43:04 AM »
What does it mean at all? We teach children to Torah?
To me, it means we don't care as much about faithful transmission of the Torah as much as how the children feel.

I'm sure he would deny that this was his intention, but that's where the emotional pull comes from.