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Re: Drones Master Thread
« Reply #381 on: May 29, 2017, 11:02:58 AM »
Really cool:

https://petapixel.com/2017/05/26/can-capture-worlds-smallest-gopro-drone/
If its seemingly relatively simple to make something like that, why doesn't anyone make something like that?

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Re: Drones Master Thread
« Reply #382 on: May 29, 2017, 11:14:47 AM »
If its seemingly relatively simple to make something like that, why doesn't anyone make something like that?
Something like this? https://www.amazon.com/Smallest-Android-Control-Quadcopter-Sumsung/dp/B01C8I7T5K

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Re: Drones Master Thread
« Reply #383 on: May 29, 2017, 11:16:38 AM »
Something like this? https://www.amazon.com/Smallest-Android-Control-Quadcopter-Sumsung/dp/B01C8I7T5K
No. I Have tried many of those types. All are total crap and can barely be flown outdoors and expect to get anything resembling usable footage.

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Re: Drones Master Thread
« Reply #384 on: May 29, 2017, 11:18:18 AM »
If its seemingly relatively simple to make something like that, why doesn't anyone make something like that?
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/10/trevor-bauer-drone-gross-finger-indians-blue-jays-alcs
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Re: Drones Master Thread
« Reply #386 on: May 29, 2017, 11:27:54 AM »
No. I Have tried many of those types. All are total crap and can barely be flown outdoors and expect to get anything resembling usable footage.
1. I spent 3 seconds finding that, I imagine there are ones that are a little better...

2. Did you see the second video? The one of the pre-stabilization raw footage? I assume most people buying drones want more stability than this +gimbals etc.

3. This is not a commercially viable product as-is, you can't sell a drone with no housing, with the electronics exposed. By the time you're done with the design etc modifications it'll be a little bigger and heavier.

All that being said, if there's not something like that on the market already I'm sure it's just a matter of time.

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Re: Drones Master Thread
« Reply #387 on: May 29, 2017, 11:35:16 AM »


1. I spent 3 seconds finding that, I imagine there are ones that are a little better...

2. Did you see the second video? The one of the pre-stabilization raw footage? I assume most people buying drones want more stability than this +gimbals etc.

3. This is not a commercially viable product as-is, you can't sell a drone with no housing, with the electronics exposed. By the time you're done with the design etc modifications it'll be a little bigger and heavier.

All that being said, if there's not something like that on the market already I'm sure it's just a matter of time.

I hear. I just figured that if this guy can do that then a multi million dollar company with huge R&D departments definitely can. Finding lighter materials isn't the hard part. And I would think there is a crowd for something like this even if they have to include a stabilization software with each drone.
I would think it's more of a financial decision as opposed to a technical one why they don't make it.

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Re: Drones Master Thread
« Reply #388 on: May 29, 2017, 11:43:46 AM »
Don't forget about battery life. He might not have much more than the ~2 minutes he was flying in the videos.

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Re: Drones Master Thread
« Reply #389 on: May 29, 2017, 12:24:47 PM »
Before the first Phantom came out, everyone was flying homebrewed kits. It wasn't particularly difficult to make; you just had to do proper research and you were able to build pretty much anything. The reason DJI was so successful is because they were able to take a bunch of random parts and package it in a consumer-friendly product. No longer did you have to be a geek or serious hobbyist to fly a drone; you can now buy a finished product.

In fact before I bought my drone I was planning on going the homebrew route. You have control over all aspects of your bird, from the flight platform to the GPS modules and whatnot. You could even buy pre-selected kits that included a shell and all that. In the end it just wasn't worth the time investment and I went off-the-shelf.

BTW this is still SOP in the drone racing world - pretty much everything is home made.

But this guy took the entire idea to an extreme by stripping everything down to the bare minimum, which enabled him to make it this tiny. Most of the size and weight of a regular drone is in the battery, which requires a more powerful propulsion system, which requires more power, and so on and so forth. So like whYME said - the battery life is likely horrendous, there's no stabilization system (definitely no gimbal, and most likely no GPS), and so on.
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Re: Drones Master Thread
« Reply #390 on: July 09, 2017, 01:24:33 PM »
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Re: Drones Master Thread
« Reply #391 on: July 10, 2017, 09:16:54 AM »
Yeah, but will I get my $5 back  ;D

Yes, as of today:

https://www.faa.gov/uas/getting_started/registration_deletion/

I like how the government is more than happy to take your money by credit card, but they make you fill out and mail in a physical form for a refund ::).

Personally, I'll be sending it in. Not so much for the five bucks, but to have the record (supposedly) deleted.
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Re: Drones Master Thread
« Reply #392 on: July 10, 2017, 09:52:21 AM »
Lol, maybe I'll do a chargeback instead of all that.

Why should I care about the deletion?
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Re: Drones Master Thread
« Reply #393 on: July 10, 2017, 09:54:11 AM »
Lol, maybe I'll do a chargeback instead of all that.

Why should I care about the deletion?

LOL

You should care because if your drone kills someone they can't tie it to you any longer :P.
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Re: Drones Master Thread
« Reply #394 on: July 10, 2017, 09:55:46 AM »
they can't tie it to you any longer :P.
Yeah, and I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.
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Re: Drones Master Thread
« Reply #395 on: July 10, 2017, 09:59:13 AM »
Yeah, and I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

Does it have tolls?
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Re: Drones Master Thread
« Reply #396 on: July 10, 2017, 09:59:35 AM »
Yeah, and I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

Yeah, was just going to add an edit to my post.

At least it may not be admissible in court, considering it's stored fraudulently (or something to that effect, IANAL).

In any case, the less stuff you have registrated the better.

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Re: Drones Master Thread
« Reply #397 on: July 10, 2017, 10:02:09 AM »
LOL

You should care because if your drone kills someone they can't tie it to you any longer :P.

Though how would they tie it to you, unless you actually labeled your drone with you license number....
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Re: Drones Master Thread
« Reply #398 on: July 10, 2017, 12:17:37 PM »
Ridiculous. These guys have gotten worse than Apple.

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/3knkgn/dji-is-locking-down-its-drones-against-a-growing-army-of-diy-hackers

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Re: Drones Master Thread
« Reply #399 on: July 10, 2017, 12:19:39 PM »
Have you tried to mod your drone?  Any idea how difficult it is?

I have an Autel, no need to mod anything.

I haven't researched the DJI mods, but I imagine it's similar process to the Apple jailbreaking of yore.
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