Shabbulb

[JTZ]

You're avoiding the question, but that's the central point. I don't turn on or off lights on Shabbos because G-d told me not to.

I truly don't want to go down that road. If you believe that is what G-d told you then that is what you should do. What I or anyone else believes does not matter. 

[aygart]

I truly don't want to go down that road. If you believe that is what G-d told you then that is what you should do. What I or anyone else believes does not matter. 

true that.

[Cheesecake]

I truly don't want to go down that road. If you believe that is what G-d told you then that is what you should do. What I or anyone else believes does not matter.

If you are debating whether the halachos found in the Talmud are what G-d told us to do, I don't want to go there either.

[JTZ]

My understanding of a loophole is when someone exploits a "quark" in the law too circumvent its intention. As such if an exception is explicitly made or was never meant to be included in the first place that is not a loophole. That is my understanding of why one may eat fish based on your quote that Lent only includes  which does not include fish. That is similar to when the Talmud explicitly differentiates between extinguishing and covering.

I have answered every question put to me so hopefully you will answer this question. What if beef could be genetically engineered in a laboratory. Would that be a loophole for me to eat meat?

[David Smith]

I have answered every question put to me so hopefully you will answer this question. What if beef could be genetically engineered in a laboratory. Would that be a loophole for me to eat meat?

Ben pekua...

[Emkay]

Ben pekua...

Oh, don't even start with that.

[churnbabychurn]

Eshes yefas toar

[JTZ]

Oh, don't even start with that.

[David Smith]

Oh, don't even start with that.

+1000

[Deal Guy]

The kosher lamp is something that comes out special for Shabbos, and therefore after you finish reading on Friday night, you remember not to shut off the kosher lamp, and instead you turn it, in order to darken the room.

With the Shabbulb, it is designed to use the very "same" lamps that you use all week. During the week, you will shut the lamp since there is no point the run the electricity all night. I'm afraid, that on Shabbos, sometimes people will forget and shut off their lamp instead of flipping the Shabbos cover, since that is something that they do the other 6 days of the week. (Even more so, if sometimes you are halfway falling asleep over a book or newspaper, and your mind may not be the sharpest at that moment as you are about to fall asleep, and you will forget it's Shabbos and shut the switch.)

Any response to my post above?

[JTZ]

Eshes yefas toar

Loophole?

[Cheesecake]

Any response to my post above?

You made up your own gezeirah.

[Cheesecake]

I have answered every question put to me so hopefully you will answer this question. What if beef could be genetically engineered in a laboratory. Would that be a loophole for me to eat meat?

The purpose of your restriction regarding meat is not the same as our restrictions regarding Shabbos.

A better analogy might be your meat during lent and ours during the nine days.

[churnbabychurn]

Loophole?

Wouldn't call it that. But it is the closes you'll get imho

[JTZ]

The purpose of your restriction regarding meat is not the same as our restrictions regarding Shabbos.

I understand your restriction for the hundredth time. I am not asking about yours or trying to equate the two. I am asking according to rules I should follow do you feel it is a loophole. Why are most here afraid to answer simple questions?

[mmgfarb]

Wouldn't call it that. But it is the closes you'll get imho

It's not even close to a loophole, it's a very specific halacha that was given for a very special specific reason. Ben pekuha would be a much better example of a loophole and is actually a very good counter example to what we're talking about here. The reason we don't have Ben pekuha farms is because it would totally get rid of the halachos of shechita and treifos, something that was definitely not intended.

[Cheesecake]

I understand your restriction for the hundredth time. I am not asking about yours or trying to equate the two. I am asking according to rules I should follow do you feel it is a loophole. Why are most here afraid to answer simple questions?

If the purpose of your restriction is to not enjoy meat, accordingly, you should not eat something which has the precise look, taste, and texture of meat.

[Emkay]

It's not even close to a loophole, it's a very specific halacha that was given for a very special specific reason. Ben pekuha would be a much better example of a loophole and is actually a very good counter example to what we're talking about here. The reason we don't have Ben pekuha farms is because it would totally get rid of the halachos of shechita and treifos, something that was definitely not intended.

They actually do exist.

[JTZ]

If the purpose of your restriction is to not enjoy meat, accordingly, you should not eat something which has the precise look, taste, and texture of meat.

I will take that you feel it is a loophole.

[mmgfarb]

They actually do exist.

I was not aware of that but regardless, there's no way they'll become mainstream.