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Re: Shabbulb
« Reply #30 on: September 28, 2016, 03:29:23 PM »
The only potential difference between this and the shabbos lamp that I can see is if the shade portion is more attached here than in the shabbos lamp where it really is a separate piece. Here, while seems to detach easily, it seems to be somewhat attached and doesn't fall off with the bulb upside down (that is what it looks like to me) and if so may be considered a part of the bulb and therefore muktza. Some of the letters say that it is a separate piece but I can potentially hear someone disagreeing.
The thing with the hamster is that running on the wheel is actually what it is trying to do.

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Re: Shabbulb
« Reply #31 on: September 28, 2016, 04:05:23 PM »
If you blink fast enough will everything stop moving?

That's how I create a strobe light effect. Pretty trippy.

I'll show you iy"H at our secret DO in ORD on Friday.

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Re: Shabbulb
« Reply #32 on: September 28, 2016, 05:34:01 PM »
I'll show you iy"H at our secret DO in ORD on Friday.
Is it true CV will be there?
"LESS IS MORE" It is the cumulative effect that kills deals!!! How many times do I have to say this?  >:(

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Re: Shabbulb
« Reply #33 on: September 28, 2016, 05:37:52 PM »
Is it true CV will be there?
I heard somebody got ahold of the Death Switch and...
Who do you think you are fooling? You think you are going to pull a quick one on your Creator? Good luck with that.
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Re: Shabbulb
« Reply #34 on: September 28, 2016, 05:39:18 PM »
Is it true CV will be there?

I thought he was in Poland.

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Re: Shabbulb
« Reply #35 on: September 28, 2016, 05:45:24 PM »
The only potential difference between this and the shabbos lamp that I can see is if the shade portion is more attached here than in the shabbos lamp where it really is a separate piece. Here, while seems to detach easily, it seems to be somewhat attached and doesn't fall off with the bulb upside down (that is what it looks like to me) and if so may be considered a part of the bulb and therefore muktza. Some of the letters say that it is a separate piece but I can potentially hear someone disagreeing.

Some of the haskamos say that it being LED makes it even easier to be meikil.

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Re: Shabbulb
« Reply #36 on: September 28, 2016, 05:48:27 PM »
Some of the haskamos say that it being LED makes it even easier to be meikil.
True because aish has a stronger din of muktza than kli shemlachto l'issur. If LED is not aish (debatable) then litorech gufo umkomo would be allowed.
The thing with the hamster is that running on the wheel is actually what it is trying to do.

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Re: Shabbulb
« Reply #37 on: September 28, 2016, 05:51:46 PM »
True because aish has a stronger din of muktza than kli shemlachto l'issur. If LED is not aish (debatable) then litorech gufo umkomo would be allowed.

Why would a LED be considered aish?

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Re: Shabbulb
« Reply #38 on: September 28, 2016, 05:53:41 PM »
Lamps are not muktzah according to most poskim

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Re: Shabbulb
« Reply #39 on: September 28, 2016, 05:54:55 PM »
True because aish has a stronger din of muktza than kli shemlachto l'issur. If LED is not aish (debatable) then litorech gufo umkomo would be allowed.
LED is not eish and neither are florescents. 

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Re: Shabbulb
« Reply #40 on: September 28, 2016, 05:56:26 PM »
I thought he was in Poland.
AFAIK not until latter this month.
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Re: Shabbulb
« Reply #41 on: September 28, 2016, 05:57:49 PM »
I heard somebody got ahold of the Death Switch and...
Ouch!
"LESS IS MORE" It is the cumulative effect that kills deals!!! How many times do I have to say this?  >:(

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Re: Shabbulb
« Reply #42 on: September 28, 2016, 05:59:01 PM »
LED is not eish and neither are florescents. 
In the letter for the shabbos lamp R S Miller gives a din of aish for a fluorescent bulb. There is apparently some spark involved. I did see some who gave a very broad definition of aish and therefore included LED since it gave off light. That is not the typical understanding.
The thing with the hamster is that running on the wheel is actually what it is trying to do.

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Re: Shabbulb
« Reply #43 on: September 28, 2016, 06:36:14 PM »
In the letter for the shabbos lamp R S Miller gives a din of aish for a fluorescent bulb. There is apparently some spark involved. I did see some who gave a very broad definition of aish and therefore included LED since it gave off light. That is not the typical understanding.

FWIU The spark would be there in the beginning but not once the fluorescent is lit.

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Re: Shabbulb
« Reply #44 on: September 28, 2016, 11:16:00 PM »
The shabbulb seems to have much better option for varying levels of brightness