Jewish Music With Non-Jewish Origins Master Thread

[Euclid]

Kol Isha

[Euclid]

DoeS anyone know who composed mbd's crack of dawn?
On the new falkowitz video it says yossi green but in an interview with Dina storch it says she composed it.

Someone told me once they think it's actually an old classical music piece but I have never been able to confirm that.

Dena Storch is credited with the lyrics, Yossi Green with the tune. The low part clearly is based on Handel.

&ab_channel=ClassicalMusicOnly

[Baruch]

Kol Isha

https://www.youtube.com/embed/bmKmx-ACslg

[Euclid]

&ab_channel=ShlomoCarlebach

Yep - MBD tells a funny story about that, something along the lines that Carlebach "accused" him of stealing it. And MBD legit (or so he tells it) didn't realize that he got it from Carlebach.

The non-Jewish origin video I posted was for the intro/arrangement.

[Yehuda57]

Yep - MBD tells a funny story about that, something along the lines that Carlebach "accused" him of stealing it. And MBD legit (or so he tells it) didn't realize that he got it from Carlebach.

The non-Jewish origin video I posted was for the intro/arrangement.

Perhaps a different story, but Carlebach once went to MBD and asked why he was singing Carlebach's Od Yishoma. MBD said something along the lines of, "these songs are just gifts from Hashem, neither of us really owns them." To which Carlebach replied, "but Hashem gave the gift to me! "

[Euclid]

Perhaps a different story, but Carlebach once went to MBD and asked why he was singing Carlebach's Od Yishoma. MBD said something along the lines of, "these songs are just gifts from Hashem, neither of us really owns them." To which Carlebach replied, "but Hashem gave the gift to me! "

Hmmm! Maybe that's the story I'm recalling. Dunno why I thought it was with this song

[YitzyS]

It’s not the first Tov Lehodos to be ripped...

[Euclid]

It’s not the first Tov Lehodos to be ripped...

Hey! Just because Canadians don't daven in shul doesn't mean they're non-Jewish

[Euclid]

https://youtu.be/gX6o3St7gPQ

Some people swear this was the origin of the high part of Carlebach's Ki Va Moed. Meh

[gozalim]

https://youtu.be/gX6o3St7gPQ

Some people swear this was the origin of the high part of Carlebach's Ki Va Moed. Meh

no?

[yelped]

Hmmm! Maybe that's the story I'm recalling. Dunno why I thought it was with this song

That story is true, too. I heard it from Shlomo Carlbach (I have to dig up that recording somewhere).

[Baruch]

https://youtu.be/gX6o3St7gPQ

Some people swear this was the origin of the high part of Carlebach's Ki Va Moed. Meh

wow, it's exact. why meh?

[Euclid]

wow, it's exact. why meh?

Because it's literally 4 notes.

Also, Carlebach's melodies are so simple that you can likely find an analogous non-Jewish melody for parts of every one of his tunes.

The "meh" was to the claim that Carlebach "borrowed" it.

[Baruch]

Because it's literally 4 notes.

Also, Carlebach's melodies are so simple that you can likely find an analogous non-Jewish melody for parts of every one of his tunes.

The "meh" was to the claim that Carlebach "borrowed" it.

aha, yes, I agree

[Yehuda57]

Andrew Lloyd Weber was sued for stealing a song from an unknown song writer, so he counter sued that artist for stealing *that* song from one of Weber's earlier songs.

[Euclid]

Yep - MBD tells a funny story about that, something along the lines that Carlebach "accused" him of stealing it. And MBD legit (or so he tells it) didn't realize that he got it from Carlebach.

The non-Jewish origin video I posted was for the intro/arrangement.

Going into Rosh Hashanah, I can’t neglect to mention the history of Mordechai Ben David’s V’chol Ma’aminim album. The year was 1978, and Suki and I were in Yeshivas Itri, although we had an agreement that we wouldn’t talk business during the yeshivah zeman (we’d already put out one album, and Suki was an accomplished musician who’d played for a lot of performers). It was the last Motzaei Shabbos before we’d be heading home for Pesach and the beis medrash was empty because the Israeli bochurim had gone home for Shabbos. Suki sat about five rows in front of me and, totally out of character, turned to me and said, “Did you hear that niggun that they sang at Shalosh Seudos? What a great song!” I told him I hadn’t been there and asked which song he was referring to. He started to sing what is now known as “V’chol Ma’aminim.”

At 9 p.m. the seder was over, and as we were leaving the beis medrash, someone told us that MBD was doing a concert that evening in Binyanei Ha’umah. We decided to get into a taxi and join the festivities, and when we arrived, we figured we’d try a shot at the backstage door. We expected a guard to answer and throw us out, but Mordechai Ben David himself opened the door, telling us that he was just waiting for his turn to go onstage. He was happy to see us though — Suki had played for him on occasion — and as we crowded in, Suki found a piano and asked Morcechai if he’d like to hear a special niggun. He began playing the tune he’d heard in yeshivah just a few hours earlier — and MBD was blown away by the melody. So I took a chance and said, “I’ve always dreamed of making an album that features the most popular Yamim Noraim niggunim. Would you be interested in making that type of album with us?” At that point, they called MBD, letting him know he was going on in five minutes. By the time he went on stage, we had worked out all the technical and business aspects of the deal, on our way to creating the vintage album we all know today as V’chol Ma’aminim. And we took that great niggun and imposed the words “V’chol ma’aminim sheHu chai vekayam…” for the title track.

Right after the album came out, we learned that the niggun we’d put to “V’chol Ma’aminim” had actually been written by Shlomo Carlebach as “Tov L’hodos L’Hashem.” Soon after, I bumped into Reb Shlomo one morning on the West Side and promptly pulled out my checkbook and handed him a check for the song, apologizing for not giving him credit on the album. I told him I had no idea it was his song. He gave a little laugh and said, “I’ll let you in on a secret. I didn’t know either. I composed that song ten years ago, and I’d completely forgotten about it. Thanks for reminding me, and thanks for the check.”

From Ding - https://mishpacha.com/to-hear-your-voice/

[Yo ssi]

Not really the proper thread

[Euclid]

https://twitter.com/DeeSpeegs/status/1475161385147506688

[AsherO]

https://twitter.com/DeeSpeegs/status/1475161385147506688

Isn’t that like this thread, but in reverse?

ETA: I guess it wasn’t titled properly

[yelped]

https://twitter.com/DeeSpeegs/status/1475161385147506688

This Shalom Aleichem? https://www.shazam.com/track/538062007/shalom-aleichem

Isn't it R'Ben Zion Shenker?
https://rsa.fau.edu/album/40883