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Re: Jewish Music With Non-Jewish Origins Master Thread
« Reply #195 on: January 04, 2016, 10:14:00 AM »
I wonder what "Two thousand years, is a million years too long, to search for the light that I have never known" means in this context
That he would be searching for her even for 2000 years or something like that.
The thing with the hamster is that running on the wheel is actually what it is trying to do.

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Re: Jewish Music With Non-Jewish Origins Master Thread
« Reply #196 on: January 04, 2016, 10:19:02 AM »
Aren't all of Country Yossi's songs adaptations?
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Re: Jewish Music With Non-Jewish Origins Master Thread
« Reply #197 on: January 04, 2016, 10:20:06 AM »
That he would be searching for her even for 2000 years or something like that.
Except that the verse concludes "... Father dear".
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Re: Jewish Music With Non-Jewish Origins Master Thread
« Reply #198 on: January 04, 2016, 10:21:03 AM »
That he would be searching for her even for 2000 years or something like that.
I hear, doesn't make much sense though. I skipped right to that part, thinking that they changed it
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Re: Jewish Music With Non-Jewish Origins Master Thread
« Reply #199 on: January 04, 2016, 10:25:03 AM »
https://youtu.be/tpJuBtIlIWc
This is one of the few Jewish originals that was ripped off
When that tape came out Nachum Siegel had Avraham Fried on his show. I remember so many people were upset about this song specifically that it sounds so goyish (compared to all the great stuff he had been putting out year after year). Today it's considered a hartzige niggun. How the times change.

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Re: Jewish Music With Non-Jewish Origins Master Thread
« Reply #200 on: January 04, 2016, 10:27:55 AM »


This is one of the few Jewish originals that was ripped off

This other one sung by the same kid answers it all


"After we saw the video of AVRAHAM FRIED, his new album"Keep Climbing". We do on practice with my father."
« Last Edit: May 14, 2019, 02:58:40 PM by Dan »
The thing with the hamster is that running on the wheel is actually what it is trying to do.

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Re: Jewish Music With Non-Jewish Origins Master Thread
« Reply #201 on: January 04, 2016, 10:58:41 AM »
When that tape came out Nachum Siegel had Avraham Fried on his show. I remember so many people were upset about this song specifically that it sounds so goyish (compared to all the great stuff he had been putting out year after year). Today it's considered a hartzige niggun. How the times change.
I heard that he composed it after the events of gimmel Tammuz 5754

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Re: Jewish Music With Non-Jewish Origins Master Thread
« Reply #202 on: January 04, 2016, 11:07:16 AM »
IINM at the time it was introduced to the Jewish world, it was pretty well known, and the move was somewhat 'revolutionary'...
Though to be fair, it likely originated in circles where there was nothing scandalous about it...
Do you have any more information? They sang it by the Rebbe by KSB and the Rebbe encouraged it! Does that give it the same status as mi armia admura? I dint want to start a discussion about songs taken by rabeim as opposed to chasidim but I've been noticing a lot lately...

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Re: Jewish Music With Non-Jewish Origins Master Thread
« Reply #203 on: January 04, 2016, 11:08:49 AM »
This other one sung by the same kid answers it all

"After we saw the video of AVRAHAM FRIED, his new album"Keep Climbing". We do on practice with my father."
Punkt these two songs are AF goyishe sounding ones. Btw it looks like he's wearing tzitzis but I can't seem to make out a yarmulka.
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Re: Jewish Music With Non-Jewish Origins Master Thread
« Reply #204 on: January 04, 2016, 11:12:41 AM »
Punkt these two songs are AF goyishe sounding ones. Btw it looks like he's wearing tzitzis but I can't seem to make out a yarmulka.
Whatever it is, this is clearly some arab who is pro-Israel
The thing with the hamster is that running on the wheel is actually what it is trying to do.

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Re: Jewish Music With Non-Jewish Origins Master Thread
« Reply #205 on: January 04, 2016, 11:40:25 AM »
it's actually an Indian not an Arab.

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Re: Jewish Music With Non-Jewish Origins Master Thread
« Reply #206 on: January 04, 2016, 12:03:54 PM »
Yiden have been "converting" nigunim from goyim for centuries (and they have been taking from us for forever). It's just now in the youtube era we find the sources and many seem unsavoury (like the band playing MBDs "Yidden, Yidden".

"Napolean's march" is lost to history but not in Lubavitch who since the Alter Rebbe sent a chossid to spy out to find out his marching tune, have been singing it regularly especially at the end of Neilah!

There was a Muslim imam in Dagestan named Shamyl who's song was taught by the Lubavitcher Rebbe zy"a and is sung today at farbrengens.

There is a shepard's LOVE SONG that the Kaliver Rebbe changed a few key words (i.e Rose (the name of the shepherd's object of love) to Sh'china, and the big forest to golus etc.) and now we have a Yiddish song longing for geulah. (here: http://www.zemirotdatabase.org/view_song.php?id=81 - note that many of the websites say that the rose in the original song refers to the flower, but that makes no sense because what kind of longing is there with a rose in a forest. The original was obviously a girls name).

The French national anthem was "commandeered" by the Lubavitcher Rebbe zt"l on Simchas Torah 1975 and has been sung as a Lubavitcher niggun ever since.

This list could go on for many pages but I will suffice it with what's been said.

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Re: Jewish Music With Non-Jewish Origins Master Thread
« Reply #207 on: January 04, 2016, 12:42:06 PM »
Yiden have been "converting" nigunim from goyim for centuries (and they have been taking from us for forever). It's just now in the youtube era we find the sources and many seem unsavoury (like the band playing MBDs "Yidden, Yidden".

"Napolean's march" is lost to history but not in Lubavitch who since the Alter Rebbe sent a chossid to spy out to find out his marching tune, have been singing it regularly especially at the end of Neilah!

There was a Muslim imam in Dagestan named Shamyl who's song was taught by the Lubavitcher Rebbe zy"a and is sung today at farbrengens.

There is a shepard's LOVE SONG that the Kaliver Rebbe changed a few key words (i.e Rose (the name of the shepherd's object of love) to Sh'china, and the big forest to golus etc.) and now we have a Yiddish song longing for geulah. (here: http://www.zemirotdatabase.org/view_song.php?id=81 - note that many of the websites say that the rose in the original song refers to the flower, but that makes no sense because what kind of longing is there with a rose in a forest. The original was obviously a girls name).

The French national anthem was "commandeered" by the Lubavitcher Rebbe zt"l on Simchas Torah 1975 and has been sung as a Lubavitcher niggun ever since.

This list could go on for many pages but I will suffice it with what's been said.
I'm just going to say it. There's a difference when a Rebbe does it and when MBD does it. But I believe this has already been discussed le'eyl.

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Re: Jewish Music With Non-Jewish Origins Master Thread
« Reply #208 on: January 04, 2016, 12:45:16 PM »


There was a Muslim imam in Dagestan named Shamyl who's song was taught by the Lubavitcher Rebbe zy"a and is sung today at farbrengens.
I never heard that he was a muslim.
A bit of Googling bought me here and here, very interesting.

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Re: Jewish Music With Non-Jewish Origins Master Thread
« Reply #209 on: January 04, 2016, 04:05:54 PM »
I heard that "everybody let's get ready for shaya and Perry" is based on a non-jewish song.
Iirc correctly that intro had three different non jewish songs