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Re: Flights cancelled - strike posibble in the coming days/weeks at El Al
« Reply #60 on: November 15, 2016, 11:40:55 AM »
updates for today:

LHR is cancelled
BKK is delayed again from 23:00 to 5:00
EWR is delayed from 00:30 to 15:00 (!!!)
JFK (001!!) is delayed from 00:45 to 5:10
WOW.

Is there a mass exodus from LY by customers?

As for the comments above about "chareidim" I think there are 2 main reasons why they fly ELAL:

1. The halacha of או קנה מיד עמיתך,
2. Hakoras Hatov for the fact that (as a public facade) LY doesn't fly on Shabbos (everyone knows that they fly subsidiaries on Shabbos, possibly Cargo, as well as other חילולי שבת) however at least publicly, there are no LY flights scheduled for Shabbos and 1st day YomTov.
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Flights cancelled - strike posibble in the coming days/weeks at El Al
« Reply #61 on: November 15, 2016, 11:53:22 AM »
updates for today:

LHR is cancelled
BKK is delayed again from 23:00 to 5:00
EWR is delayed from 00:30 to 15:00 (!!!)
JFK (001!!) is delayed from 00:45 to 5:10
Oh no.
Any word on if they're putting people on other flights, compensating them, etc?

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Re: Flights cancelled - strike posibble in the coming days/weeks at El Al
« Reply #62 on: November 15, 2016, 12:21:11 PM »
updates for today:

LHR is cancelled
BKK is delayed again from 23:00 to 5:00
EWR is delayed from 00:30 to 15:00 (!!!)
JFK (001!!) is delayed from 00:45 to 5:10
You can add EWR 1:15 delayed to 20:00 (not exact times) & on privilege. My friend is not happy.

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Re: Flights cancelled - strike posibble in the coming days/weeks at El Al
« Reply #63 on: November 15, 2016, 12:34:29 PM »
I am talking about flights from TLV, of course the return flights are also delayed.

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Re: Flights cancelled - strike posibble in the coming days/weeks at El Al
« Reply #64 on: November 15, 2016, 12:36:20 PM »
are they offering compensation or placing people on another airline?

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Re: Flights cancelled - strike posibble in the coming days/weeks at El Al
« Reply #66 on: November 15, 2016, 01:41:29 PM »


updates for today:

JFK (001!!) is delayed from 00:45 to 5:10

Where are you seeing this?

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Re: Flights cancelled - strike posibble in the coming days/weeks at El Al
« Reply #68 on: November 15, 2016, 03:45:23 PM »
tomorrow VIE is cancelled

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Re: Flights cancelled - strike posibble in the coming days/weeks at El Al
« Reply #69 on: November 15, 2016, 03:58:33 PM »
tomorrow VIE is cancelled
when they cancel, do they place the customers on other flights?
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Re: Flights cancelled - strike posibble in the coming days/weeks at El Al
« Reply #70 on: November 15, 2016, 04:07:44 PM »
they only offer refunds

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Re: Flights cancelled - strike posibble in the coming days/weeks at El Al
« Reply #71 on: November 15, 2016, 04:19:54 PM »
they only offer refunds
No sort of compensation?

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Re: Flights cancelled - strike posibble in the coming days/weeks at El Al
« Reply #72 on: November 15, 2016, 05:14:06 PM »
No sort of compensation?
Friend of mine said he got free tickets for future travel

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Re: Flights cancelled - strike posibble in the coming days/weeks at El Al
« Reply #73 on: November 16, 2016, 06:39:15 AM »
As I said, messing with the flagship flight 001 is major.

Here's an article by an agent who admits to being very close to ELAL who just announced that he's suspending sales of ELAL tickets.

http://col.org.il/חדשות_חבד_EL_AL_WE_HAVE_A_PROBLEM_•_מילה_של_קמיסר_100848.html

I am guessing that this will now get worked out, and ELAL will slash prices in order to regain customers, which will result in other airlines matching.
« Last Edit: November 16, 2016, 01:20:48 PM by AsherO »
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Re: Flights cancelled - strike posibble in the coming days/weeks at El Al
« Reply #74 on: November 16, 2016, 10:42:39 AM »
HKG is cancelled for tonight.
PEK is delayed from 21:30 to 10:00
« Last Edit: November 16, 2016, 10:59:14 AM by travel agent »

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Re: Flights cancelled - strike posibble in the coming days/weeks at El Al
« Reply #75 on: November 16, 2016, 11:49:24 AM »
I'm on tomorrows LY028 (EWR-TLV) flight. I got a message this AM that it is going to be 7 hours late. I called to get a refund and they told me that they are actually going to be flying a plane in the morning (8:20). So we'll see how it goes.

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Re: Flights cancelled - strike posibble in the coming days/weeks at El Al
« Reply #76 on: November 16, 2016, 01:19:29 PM »
As I said, messing with the flagship flight 001 is major.

Here's an article by an agent who admits to being very close to ELAL who just announced that he's suspending sales of ELAL tickets.

http://col.org.il/חדשות_חבד_EL_AL_WE_HAVE_A_PROBLEM_•_מילה_של_קמיסר_100848.html

I am guessing that this will now get worked out, and ELAL will slash prices in order to regain customers, which will result in other airlines matching.

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Re: Flights cancelled - strike posibble in the coming days/weeks at El Al
« Reply #77 on: November 16, 2016, 02:55:17 PM »
From Globes today :

http://www.globes.co.il/en/article-el-al-dispute-with-pilots-escalates-1001161464


What about compensation?

The frustrated passengers can take comfort in the Aviation Services Law (Compensation and Assistance for Flight Cancellations and Changes in Conditions) - 2012, which sets compensation for cancellation of a flight under certain conditions (for example, in case of an organized strike, the airline is not legally obligated to compensate passengers).

Advocates Vered Cohen and Raanan Bar-On explain that unavailability of pilots is not classed as a reason exempting the airline from providing monetary compensation. The law stipulates compensation in the NIS 1,290-3,080 range, in addition to giving back the money the passengers paid for their tickets. Compensation is determined by the flight distance.

At the same time, Cohen and Bar-On made it clear that the airline is exempt from providing this compensation in cases in which the passengers reach compensation agreements with the airline, for example, if a passenger agrees to accept a free ticket (in addition to reimbursement for the original ticket). The same is true in a case in which the passenger was notified of the expected cancellation, and was offered an alternative flight close to the original flight (from one hour in advance of the takeoff time to two hours after the original landing time).

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Re: Flights cancelled - strike posibble in the coming days/weeks at El Al
« Reply #78 on: November 17, 2016, 03:18:07 AM »
ELAL is headed towards death....
a reason to celebrate.

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Re: Flights cancelled - strike posibble in the coming days/weeks at El Al
« Reply #79 on: November 17, 2016, 03:29:24 AM »
a reason to celebrate.
Can you give me one valid reason why that would be a good thing?