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Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
« Reply #150 on: November 16, 2016, 01:48:53 PM »
Over 100 maybe 500

Are you serious? Are you sure?

On the one hand, that gives us more leverage (power in numbers), on the other, it gives us less (more potential harm wrought on Google).

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« Reply #151 on: November 16, 2016, 01:51:10 PM »
So, interesting update, when I filled out the disabled form for my secondary e-mail (albeit a work e-mail address) the response I received was basically "sorry, your account is not eligible for reinstatement." My spouses e-mail (their primary) the e-mail back stated "we are looking into your request and we've found that there is already a pending appeal on your account..." Has anyone here received the second appeals e-mail? Just curious

They already responded to your reinstatement request? First I've heard.

When I tried to supplement my reinstatement request for my account with more information, I got an email back saying
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  Not sure why you would have gotten an email saying there is already an appeal pending on an account no appeal was made. Odd.
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Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
« Reply #152 on: November 16, 2016, 01:59:03 PM »
Are you serious? Are you sure?

On the one hand, that gives us more leverage (power in numbers), on the other, it gives us less (more potential harm wrought on Google).
I'm sure it's over 100.
I know personally 20 accounts that got shut down.


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Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
« Reply #153 on: November 16, 2016, 01:59:50 PM »
Over 100 maybe 500
not Sure about ppl, but fure sure accounts is possible to be that number,
Most ppl probably don't know yet that they lost there account
What's your plan for yud shvat?

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Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
« Reply #154 on: November 16, 2016, 02:00:34 PM »
Unless it's a Yahoo, aol, etc.
Who else do we have to choose from?

How does Google shut down a Yahoo account?
For me, the main crisis would be my drive/photos /gv /linked apps, than the actual emails.

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« Reply #155 on: November 16, 2016, 02:03:57 PM »
Out of pure curiosity. What was everyone doing? Buying the phone for a dealer out of the country? Is it that much cheaper  here?

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Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
« Reply #156 on: November 16, 2016, 02:05:16 PM »
Wow! Thank Gd I was not involved in this. I cannot imagine being without my gmail account. I feel bad for everyone affected.
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« Reply #157 on: November 16, 2016, 02:08:40 PM »
Out of pure curiosity. What was everyone doing? Buying the phone for a dealer out of the country? Is it that much cheaper  here?
Buying phones for dealers in the country, that have you ship to their fulfillment center (or rented office) in a state that doesn't charge sales tax. Then they sell the phones to international brokers/contacts. Same system (probably same buyers/brokers) as the iPhone deals every September.

Problem is, Google picked up on orders equaling thousands of phones being shipped to the same few addresses.

Each company releases phones in batches all around the world.
Example: This phone might not be released for another 6 months in Australia and people there may want it already and are willing to pay a premium to get it imported from the US.
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Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
« Reply #158 on: November 16, 2016, 02:25:17 PM »
If I lost my google account I'd feel like I lost part of my identity.
In some ways it's part of who I am. Someone wants to reach out to me to say hi or wants to do business, they send me an email.

Gone.

Let me check my vacation photos that I stored in the cloud.

Gone.

How about my spreadsheets and work documents I backed up on Drive?

Also gone.

Maybe it's time that companies give us more rights. Imagine USPS stopped delivering your mail because you didn't put enough stamps on an envelope?

Google, you wanna suspend me? Give me 30 days to export my data and notify my contacts of the change.

Remember, services like Gmail, Drive, despite not having an upfront cost, are not free.
We are the product, and google profits very much off our data. We deserve to be treated like any paying customer.

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Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
« Reply #159 on: November 16, 2016, 02:26:02 PM »
Please blame this on the phone brokers. I had a dozen brokers reach out to me for iPhone resales and eventually turned them all down a few years in a row, losing a ton of cash each time, all for the reason that I read Apple T&C and saw it was prohibited and when done on such a mass scale even if they didn't do anything before they might and are entitled to make an exception if the wanted to.
Why the need to blame anyone? Do you think the dealers anticipated this? I don't understand why you (and often Dan) need to turn everyone's pain into your gain for "foreseeing this". People lost their primary google account that is a big deal. No need to mention here when the pain is raw how you knew better and denied their "ads". Sorry for being rough, it's just your post hits a raw nerve in me.

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Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
« Reply #160 on: November 16, 2016, 03:00:50 PM »
Why the need to blame anyone? Do you think the dealers anticipated this? I don't understand why you (and often Dan) need to turn everyone's pain into your gain for "foreseeing this". People lost their primary google account that is a big deal. No need to mention here when the pain is raw how you knew better and denied their "ads". Sorry for being rough, it's just your post hits a raw nerve in me.
I don't gain anything from this. And I said multiple times I hope they reinstate accounts and that this is devastating.

I got irked when some members were saying they didn't break any T&C and that everyone should sue Google.

Saying
last I checked, there is no public T&C regarding this,
And then saying
no, as the arnt any
That there aren't any T&C.

It makes people sound so ignorant it's painful.

And then people saying that we should sue Google and make millions on them:
Lets cut to the chase with a CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT, we will make this the biggest court case in history and end up making millions of google for Making up terms and conditions and linking it to our personal email accounts which have nothing to do with what we purchased in the first place ,


This is a forums where people express what they think and when people say ignorant or outrageous things I will sometimes let them know what they are saying is factually incorrect. Hopefully that realization will help them in this case.

They will be much better off begging to get an account back than suing them for damages.

This is a terrible thing and I hope Google realizes how this is bad for them and way out of proportion. I hope everyone's account in reinstated asap.

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Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
« Reply #161 on: November 16, 2016, 03:02:22 PM »
For Dan and jj and all the genius's who are saying that these people violated the terms and conditions it's just not true they violated the terms and conditions of the sale of the phone but not the terms and conditions of the gmail account it doesn't say anywhere that you can't use your gmail account for resale purpose it says that you can't buy the phones for resale but what does that have to do with the terms and conditions of the gmail account

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Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
« Reply #162 on: November 16, 2016, 03:08:59 PM »
For Dan and jj and all the genius's who are saying that these people violated the terms and conditions it's just not true they violated the terms and conditions of the sale of the phone but not the terms and conditions of the gmail account it doesn't say anywhere that you can't use your gmail account for resale purpose it says that you can't buy the phones for resale but what does that have to do with the terms and conditions of the gmail account
I agree, and that's why I'm hopeful that they'll reinstate the accounts.
BUT they own the whole shebang.  We have email accounts at their pleasure. I'm sure their T&C say they can shut an account for no reason.  Just as the airlines and credit cards have similar clauses.

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Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
« Reply #163 on: November 16, 2016, 03:09:25 PM »
For Dan and jj and all the genius's who are saying that these people violated the terms and conditions it's just not true they violated the terms and conditions of the sale of the phone but not the terms and conditions of the gmail account it doesn't say anywhere that you can't use your gmail account for resale purpose it says that you can't buy the phones for resale but what does that have to do with the terms and conditions of the gmail account
It doesn't seem like Google differentiates between their services. Violate terms and you're out. That is scary and should be a topic of national conversation.
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Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
« Reply #164 on: November 16, 2016, 03:11:07 PM »
For Dan and jj and all the genius's who are saying that these people violated the terms and conditions it's just not true they violated the terms and conditions of the sale of the phone but not the terms and conditions of the gmail account it doesn't say anywhere that you can't use your gmail account for resale purpose it says that you can't buy the phones for resale but what does that have to do with the terms and conditions of the gmail account
IANAL I hope you're right.

I'm trying to point out what I see as a clear T&C and why they would be justified. The more you know the better chance you have of making a coherent argument.

The same T&C page says:

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When you use any Google services through your Device, your use is subject to the applicable terms and conditions for those services, including the Google Terms of Service. Use of certain Device features may require that you open a Google account. Note that Google services and content may vary by region.

Basically you are at their mercy for everything. And they can do whatever they want whenever they want.

I'm all for changing that at a congressional level, and passing cloud laws giving us rights to what's stored in our accounts.
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