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Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
« Reply #735 on: December 12, 2016, 12:01:49 PM »
That must be real easy to say for someone whose accounts have been reopened...
So pray do tell, how would you react if you keep getting shot down after numerous requests to have your accounts reopened yet the Dansdeals article (which, we saw, can affect change on Google) reports the story as if all is hunky dory?
Updating the post note won't help anything, it's all blown over by now.
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Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
« Reply #736 on: December 12, 2016, 12:02:43 PM »
That must be real easy to say for someone whose accounts have been reopened...
So pray do tell, how would you react if you keep getting shot down after numerous requests to have your accounts reopened yet the Dansdeals article (which, we saw, can affect change on Google) reports the story as if all is hunky dory?
I wouldn't attack Dan for 2 reasons. A. Out of gratefulness for all he's done for the DD community. B. I don't feel that AP will pick up a change to the DDF post because 2 people haven't had their accounts reopened.
Although after putting myself in your shoes I probably should've been more considerate than I was when I woke up at 4am.

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Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
« Reply #737 on: December 12, 2016, 12:49:29 PM »
Updating the post note won't help anything, it's all blown over by now.
Does it hurt to try?

I wouldn't attack Dan for 2 reasons. A. Out of gratefulness for all he's done for the DD community.
I am, in no way, attacking Dan. I hope i didnt come across that way. I also never said he wasnt helpful (although after hesitating a bit). All im saying is that i just cant wrap my head around why he would refuse to update his article. Forget the "helping another yid" aspect. Do it for the sake of basic journalistic integrity (a domain into which Dan has forayed, willingly or not, when reporting on this story). עשה למענך אם לא למעננו... Is this that difficult to understand or am i missing something?

B. I don't feel that AP will pick up a change to the DDF post because 2 people haven't had their accounts reopened.
May i ask where you're getting your numbers from? We've been told this closure has affected over 200 people yet how many reports have you read here? Maybe 10?

Although after putting myself in your shoes I probably should've been more considerate than I was when I woke up at 4am.
Yups. I think most DDFers are affected by the same  apathy.

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Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
« Reply #738 on: December 12, 2016, 01:45:56 PM »
Yups. I think most DDFers are affected by the same  apathy.

There's something called tone.
Dan has went above and beyond to help out everyone, so when you get worked up that he didn't post an update about 2-3 people, you're stoking people to not care about your case.

Then you complain about ddf apathy and you'll be wondering why people will start caring less all of a sudden.
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Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
« Reply #739 on: December 12, 2016, 06:37:51 PM »
Does it hurt to try?
Yes. Imagine what would happen if Dan would edit a post on DDMS every time someone thought there was a chance of hope for their personal situation.
Besides for the fact that Dan's being completely reasonable here, there's also the idea of setting a precedent.
I am, in no way, attacking Dan. I hope i didnt come across that way. I also never said he wasnt helpful (although after hesitating a bit). All im saying is that i just cant wrap my head around why he would refuse to update his article. Forget the "helping another yid" aspect. Do it for the sake of basic journalistic integrity (a domain into which Dan has forayed, willingly or not, when reporting on this story). עשה למענך אם לא למעננו... Is this that difficult to understand or am i missing something?
Sometimes we just don't understand things, especially when we're emotionally involved.
May i ask where you're getting your numbers from? We've been told this closure has affected over 200 people yet how many reports have you read here? Maybe 10?
Trust me. I'm personally involved in this story from a few sides, and I've spoken to many people about it.
There seem to be between 2-300 people who had their accounts shut down.
Of those, probably 80-90% are here on DDF.
Google said they would restore access to genuine accounts.
I've since spoken to 10's of people (including the reseller) whose accounts were shut down and they were all reopened. I'm yet to hear of a third report of a genuine account that wasn't reopened. Me thinks I would've heard if there was.

So to answer your question, I get my numbers from personal interaction with the people involved.

I hope I've made clearer to you why Dan may not be able/willing to edit his post and to help you in other ways. If its still not making sense to you, I don't think I'll be able to be any clearer then this.

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Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
« Reply #740 on: December 12, 2016, 10:00:56 PM »
There's something called tone.
Dan has went above and beyond to help out everyone, so when you get worked up that he didn't post an update about 2-3 people, you're stoking people to not care about your case.

Then you complain about ddf apathy and you'll be wondering why people will start caring less all of a sudden.

I honestly don't know of which tone you speak.

Was it this?
Nothing doing. Accounts still disabled. All legit accounts. Please revise your post where you write:
Update #2, 11/17 at 8pm: Google has reactivated the suspended accounts!
Or maybe this?
I've submitted numerous requests about my shuttered accounts, yet nothing. Dan, can you pls update your article to properly reflect the facts that Google's reopening of accounts is purely whimsical by nature. Tnx!

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Yes. Imagine what would happen if Dan would edit a post on DDMS every time someone thought there was a chance of hope for their personal situation.
Oy, that would be horrible. Just plain horrible. I mean, who was it again who said this was akin to a Digital Death Sentence?

Besides for the fact that Dan's being completely reasonable here, there's also the idea of setting a precedent.
Really? You're worried that he'll set a precedence for journalistic integrity? I'm aware of the fake-news mania, but i think you're taking this a bit too far  :)

Sometimes we just don't understand things, especially when we're emotionally involved. Trust me. I'm personally involved in this story from a few sides, and I've spoken to many people about it.
There seem to be between 2-300 people who had their accounts shut down.
Of those, probably 80-90% are here on DDF.
Google said they would restore access to genuine accounts.
I've since spoken to 10's of people (including the reseller) whose accounts were shut down and they were all reopened. I'm yet to hear of a third report of a genuine account that wasn't reopened. Me thinks I would've heard if there was.

So to answer your question, I get my numbers from personal interaction with the people involved.
 

As I've already said:
Seriously? 
For argument's sake lets say you're assumptions are correct, does that still not fly in the face of their publically issued statement that they will be reopening all accounts not opened for the sole purpose of phone purchases? Or did i miss the "3 persons" exclusion?

I hope I've made clearer to you why Dan may not be able/willing to edit his post and to help you in other ways. If its still not making sense to you, I don't think I'll be able to be any clearer then this.
No, not really. Wonder if you would be singing the same song if our roles were reversed. Na, scratch that. I wonder not...
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Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
« Reply #741 on: December 12, 2016, 10:07:13 PM »
Gosh! Are we seriously arguing whether it's reasonable to ask that a story be accurately reported on? What am i missing here?

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Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
« Reply #742 on: December 12, 2016, 10:31:00 PM »
Seriosuly can Dan ever win. All he has done is to help you guys and all you do is criticize.

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Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
« Reply #743 on: December 12, 2016, 10:45:43 PM »
BH i've had three of my 7 accounts reopened over the past few days (after incessantly badgering them - or perhaps due to Dan's magic hand. Dunno). But they're still holding out with my four most important ones. All old, long-standing accounts. Really frustrating. To those accusing me of attacking Dan, please scroll back and read through my posts and let me know when you have a change of heart ;) I have nothing but respect and admiration for him.

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Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
« Reply #744 on: December 12, 2016, 10:50:03 PM »
While I may not agree with the tone of the person whose account is still disabled, I do think that people are being insensitive and dismissive of the pain that someone who's been locked out of their account for 3 weeks is going through. Telling someone sentenced to death not to complain because most other people had been acquitted isn't very reassuring or sensitive. It this were you, would you really be sitting passively on the side because the one person you see as capable of helping you already helped everyone else?
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Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
« Reply #745 on: December 12, 2016, 10:52:21 PM »
To those accusing me of attacking Dan, please scroll back and read through my posts and let me know when you have a change
Seriously? 
For argument's sake lets say you're assumptions are correct, does that still not fly in the face of their publically issued statement that they will be reopening all accounts not opened for the sole purpose of phone purchases? Or did i miss the "3 persons" exclusion?
This was directed at Dan and sounds to me like an attack

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Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
« Reply #746 on: December 12, 2016, 11:16:33 PM »
This was directed at Dan and sounds to me like an attack
I dont consider arguing over whether Google is honoring its commitment an attack. Was def not meant to be one. But i guess i could have worded it differently.

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Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
« Reply #747 on: December 13, 2016, 03:30:29 AM »
BH i've had three of my 7 accounts reopened over the past few days (after incessantly badgering them - or perhaps due to Dan's magic hand. Dunno). But they're still holding out with my four most important ones. All old, long-standing accounts. Really frustrating. To those accusing me of attacking Dan, please scroll back and read through my posts and let me know when you have a change of heart ;) I have nothing but respect and admiration for him.
You had seven accounts you ordered from?
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Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
« Reply #748 on: December 13, 2016, 03:35:54 AM »
You had seven accounts you ordered from?
You wouldn't have?
Who do you think you are fooling? You think you are going to pull a quick one on your Creator? Good luck with that.
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Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
« Reply #749 on: December 13, 2016, 05:39:34 AM »
You wouldn't have?
They don't cry when PGFHGS.
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