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A truly delicious burger doesn't need any toppings, simply from the grill to your mouth. No plate no bun. Or if your more civilized a simple toasted bun. Your burger should start out simple, You could get creative but the base should be: 60/40. 60 (lean beef) / 40 (fat beef). Some people add a egg and or some breadcrumbs. Patties should be made by hand. Some even press a thumb print into the pattie to avoid shrinkage or just because they like to see that they can. Topped with salt and pepper on both sides right before grilling. When you grill you should flip once maybe maybe 2ce never more.

Burger Toppings:
Lettuce, Pickles (or Relish), Tomato (Thick Cut)
Pastrami, Beef Fry or Bacon, Smoked Brisket, Grilled Salami
Sunny Side Up Egg
Sautéed Onions, Peppers or Mushrooms
Grilled Pineapple or tomato
Avocado
Fake Cheese
Chilli
Jalapeños or Banana Peppers or green chilies
French Fries, Onion Rings
Pickled Red Onions, Raw Onions
Foie gout Paris puts this stuff on everything!
Salt and pepper potato chips -Dan

Burger Condiments:
Ketchup, Mayonnaise (and Variations Chipotle, Truffle, Spicy etc.), BBQ, Sriracha or Other Spicy Sauce, Aioli, Worcestershire Sauce or Mustard

Burger Meats:
Beef, Lamb, Cornbeef, Veal
Chicken (but is it really worthy of being called a burger?) (of course it's not worthy)

Burger Recipes:
In & Out Burger

Burger's from Restaurants:
JG Steakhouse HT: Davidmal
House of Dog Miami HT: Yitzf
Bistro Burger @Shallots Bistro HT: Cholent
Bacon Avocado Burger & Double Burger @Holy Schnitzel HT: Shmulie
Mr Broadway's $29 Le Massive Burger HT: Mendy from Lakewood
henche ate a burgers and q

HT: Davidmal

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Recipes you've tried or
Restaurant Burgers you've tried.
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Re: Hamburger Master Thread
« Reply #120 on: December 19, 2016, 08:19:45 AM »
On skillet... heat contact..
If you are goin to cook them on a skillet pressing them is the least of your problems.  :)
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Re: Hamburger Master Thread
« Reply #121 on: December 19, 2016, 08:36:35 AM »
If you are goin to cook them on a skillet pressing them is the least of your problems.  :)
Haha
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Re: Hamburger Master Thread
« Reply #122 on: December 19, 2016, 09:16:41 AM »
Still going to put extra pressure that squeezes out the juices. If it works for you that is all that matters. I am a one flip kind of guy.  :)

+1, meat should be turned once and only once, no other action required.
I believe science and tests disproved most of those theories.

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« Reply #123 on: December 19, 2016, 10:59:43 AM »
I believe science and tests disproved most of those theories.
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Re: Hamburger Master Thread
« Reply #126 on: December 19, 2016, 11:14:58 AM »
Prior to becoming a lawyer in my later life, after graduating high school I went to culinary school in San Francisco and studied in Europe for two summers and then I was working Chef for years. My cooking practices are from years of experience.

With that said, I know that I know hardly anything , and that I'm always learning, and there are many schools of thought. What works for one person may not work for another. When it comes to food, each person has their own preferences.

If you watch Diners Drive-Ins and Dives, and, just the other day I watched Food Paradise where they highlighted hamburgers, I would say most if not all used a weight on the hamburger patties.

Pressing and squeezing is different from adding a little weight to your patty or your steak to create good even contact with the heating surface , causing great caramelization. The juices are not squeezed out. My burgers and steaks are incredibly juicy.


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Re: Hamburger Master Thread
« Reply #127 on: December 19, 2016, 11:17:27 AM »
Pressing and squeezing is different from adding a little weight to your patty or your steak to create good even contact with the heating surface , causing great caramelization. The juices are not squeezed out. My burgers and steaks are incredibly juicy.
When cooking on a grill I am not following even contact with the heating surface?
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Re: Hamburger Master Thread
« Reply #128 on: December 19, 2016, 11:20:23 AM »
Has nothing to with pressing the meat. Also I want perfect grill marks on my steak.  :)

It was about multiple flips, explaining why that is better than the single flip method
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Re: Hamburger Master Thread
« Reply #129 on: December 19, 2016, 11:21:34 AM »
When cooking on a grill I am not following even contact with the heating surface?

Actually, no. A griddle or cast iron pan will create even heat across the entire surface. A grill will have heat variations between the grates and the spaces. This is why the steak should be rotated while grilling.
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Re: Hamburger Master Thread
« Reply #130 on: December 19, 2016, 11:22:51 AM »
When cooking on a grill I am not following even contact with the heating surface?
I would not use weight either on a grate-style open-fire grill or grate-griddle. Only on a flat-top. Grill marks are not important to me. They just look pretty IMO, but so does any even maillard across the whole item, and, IMO, offers more flavor.

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« Reply #131 on: December 19, 2016, 11:26:13 AM »
I would not use weight either on a grate-style open-fire grill or grate-griddle.
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Re: Hamburger Master Thread
« Reply #133 on: December 19, 2016, 11:35:03 AM »
In case all y'all are always grilling your burgers, you should try on a skillet or griddle once.  They're delicious.

Just take a blob of meat, press onto cooking surface with your spatula or press, flip and do same thing on other side, fry onions in the grease that's pooling like mad, and then toast the buns in the same grease at the end (they soak it all up and then you have a greasy toasted bun).

It's way better than grilled, IMO.

Sadly, it smoked up my whole house which doesn't thrill my wife.

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Re: Hamburger Master Thread
« Reply #134 on: December 19, 2016, 11:44:43 AM »


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Sadly, it smoked up my whole house which doesn't thrill my wife.
"Doesn't", sounds like your house still has smoke in it. No wonder


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Re: Hamburger Master Thread
« Reply #135 on: December 19, 2016, 11:52:11 AM »
In case all y'all are always grilling your burgers, you should try on a skillet or griddle once.  They're delicious.

Just take a blob of meat, press onto cooking surface with your spatula or press, flip and do same thing on other side, fry onions in the grease that's pooling like mad, and then toast the buns in the same grease at the end (they soak it all up and then you have a greasy toasted bun).

It's way better than grilled, IMO.

Sadly, it smoked up my whole house which doesn't thrill my wife.
You can also cook your hot dogs in said grease... did this once, unintentionally... kind of out of laziness (usually I just boil my dogs but DW was making burgers this way and decided to just toss them in), and it came out AMAZING- to my admittedly untrained palette.

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Re: Hamburger Master Thread
« Reply #136 on: December 19, 2016, 11:53:38 AM »
You can also cook your hot dogs in said grease... did this once, unintentionally... kind of out of laziness (usually I just boil my dogs but DW was making burgers this way and decided to just toss them in), and it came out AMAZING- to my admittedly untrained palette.

I'm stuck (in horror) at the part where you say you usually boil your dogs  :o
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Re: Hamburger Master Thread
« Reply #137 on: December 19, 2016, 11:54:05 AM »
You can also cook your hot dogs in said grease... did this once, unintentionally... kind of out of laziness (usually I just boil my dogs but DW was making burgers this way and decided to just toss them in), and it came out AMAZING- to my admittedly untrained palette.

Yes and then do the onions and buns in THAT grease.


Anyone have any ideas how to tame the smoke? 

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Re: Hamburger Master Thread
« Reply #138 on: December 19, 2016, 11:55:19 AM »
I'm stuck (in horror) at the part where you say you usually boil your dogs  :o
I know someone who did that
please dont do that.

use the oven at broil before you do that

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Re: Hamburger Master Thread
« Reply #139 on: December 19, 2016, 11:56:17 AM »
Yes and then do the onions and buns in THAT grease.


Anyone have any ideas how to tame the smoke?

Open windows and doors for cross-ventilation before you start
Keep your oven vent fan on
Actively wave the smoke towards your open window with an oscillating fan
All tried and true
Alternately, place your pan on your grill and cook outside
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