global warming- what's your take?

[Luvtotravel]

I'm compiling a lesson on global warming and am having a hard time portraying both views on the matter. now that trump is elected, shouldn't there be more studies or infographics pointing toward climate change being a hoax? anyone have any leads?

[Euclid]

I'm compiling a lesson on global warming and am having a hard time portraying both views on the matter. now that trump is elected, shouldn't there be more studies or infographics pointing toward climate change being a hoax? anyone have any leads?

Curious - what did you end up compiling? Has anything changed in the 4.5 years since you posted this? Asking seriously...

[JlmBoi]

Check out Bjorn Lomborg.

[M218]

Curious - what did you end up compiling? Has anything changed in the 4.5 years since you posted this? Asking seriously...

The only thing that changed is, this thread is now getting warmer.

[justaregularguy]

im the first one to vote!
anyway its not fair bc really the last option is correct and everyone here shud choose it

[Jellybelly]

I think we deserve another stimulus now due to global warming!

[YitzyS]

I think if we get enough people to vote for the first option, we may be able to lure @CountValentine back to DDF to counter the claim...

[Euclid]

Not sure why the sarcasm. Climate change is as good of a plausible contributing factor as all the other factors mentioned above. This is an issue that the insurance industry has been grappling with and taking action on in the last decade. Example, the company I work for will not underwrite an exposure on the FL coastline. NY DFS even issued regulatory guidelines for all insurance companies on managing the financial risks that stem from climate change https://www.dfs.ny.gov/industry_guidance/climate_change
I have not come across anybody in the industry that does not think that climate change isn't real ( im not getting in to the man-made political stuff)

In my experience (I worked for a large insurance company), insurance companies have really started to factor in climate change into their risk models. This is what I think changed over the past 4.5 years - corporations are seriously considering climate change when doing medium-long term projections.

I'm not sure why so many people I know just dismiss it out of hand, e.g. like how it's not factored in when people from the frum community discuss moving to Florida.

There are strong opinions on both sides, but I just don't understand why people aren't erring on the side of the seemingly vast majority, that climate change is real and should be factored into your personal medium-long term plans (hishtadlus etc.). I personally don't know whom to believe, but I keep it in mind when thinking about the future (and davening!).

[avromie7]

In my experience (I worked for a large insurance company), insurance companies have really started to factor in climate change into their risk models. This is what I think changed over the past 4.5 years - corporations are seriously considering climate change when doing medium-long term projections.

I'm not sure why so many people I know just dismiss it out of hand, e.g. like how it's not factored in when people from the frum community discuss moving to Florida.

There are strong opinions on both sides, but I just don't understand why people aren't erring on the side of the seemingly vast majority, that climate change is real and should be factored into your personal medium-long term plans (hishtadlus etc.). I personally don't know whom to believe, but I keep it in mind when thinking about the future (and davening!).

Considering that even casting doubt on some of the supposed effects of climate change can get your censored, I highly doubt this is the case once you remove the political aspect.

https://youtu.be/_yn1MQjF5gs

[Euclid]

Considering that even casting doubt on some of the supposed effects of climate change can get your censored, I highly doubt this is the case once you remove the political aspect.

https://youtu.be/_yn1MQjF5gs

How do you reconcile that with many (most?) major corporations factoring in climate change?

[Jellybelly]

How do you reconcile that with many (most?) major corporations factoring in climate change?

Easy, either they’re woke or they’re scared of those who are

[S209]

How do you reconcile that with many (most?) major corporations factoring in climate change?

Because in that “censored” video, the hosts readily acknowledge the reality and effects of climate change. Everyone in the field (and related fields) does. They just aren’t sure of the depth of impact, the causes, and the best prevention methods.

[S209]

Easy, either they’re woke or they’re scared of those who are

Right, actuaries at insurance companies are factoring information they believe to be false into their modeling because they’re trying to be “woke”.

[zh cohen]

Right, actuaries at insurance companies are factoring information they believe to be false into their modeling because they’re trying to be “woke”.

Or they are relying on science that is produced under circumstances that does not allow for the honest and open minded consideration of the facts.

[Lurker]

Or they are relying on science that is produced under circumstances that does not allow for the honest and open minded consideration of the facts.

I don't think there are problems with most of the science. The issue is more in the interpretations of the science. It's been hijacked by activists who misuse and misconstrue the data to fit their narrative.

[yelped]

Lots of hacktivists in this field, but I definitely won't go against cost effective steps to reduce air and water pollution.

[S209]

Or they are relying on science that is produced under circumstances that does not allow for the honest and open minded consideration of the facts.

Who do you believe is more likely to investigate and see if the science on this is credible, a large corporation that depends on this information to formulate profitable policies or someone on the internet?

[S209]

Or they are relying on science that is produced under circumstances that does not allow for the honest and open minded consideration of the facts.

Do you believe there are a number of scientists who deny the existence of climate change patterns?

[Lurker]

Who do you believe is more likely to investigate and see if the science on this is credible, a large corporation that depends on this information to formulate profitable policies or someone on the internet?

Depends... is the guy on the internet a DDFer?

[Euclid]

I don't think there are problems with most of the science. The issue is more in the interpretations of the science. It's been hijacked by activists who misuse and misconstrue the data to fit their narrative.

Shades of covid