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Re: Receiving 100k amex plat promo without being targeted
« Reply #880 on: July 11, 2011, 03:57:29 PM »
No. MR (not 1st) won't transfer to airline miles.

I think MR 1st (Centurion, Platinum), and MR (Gold, Green), both transfer to airline miles. 

It's MR Express (Zync, Blue), that doesn't transfer to airlines miles, but it still preserves your points for when you get a future MR or MR 1st card.

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Re: Receiving 100k amex plat promo without being targeted
« Reply #881 on: July 11, 2011, 03:59:41 PM »
Whoops, looks like gozalim beat me to that one.

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Re: Receiving 100k amex plat promo without being targeted
« Reply #882 on: July 11, 2011, 04:00:14 PM »
I think MR 1st (Centurion, Platinum), and MR (Gold, Green), both transfer to airline miles. 

It's MR Express (Zync, Blue), that doesn't transfer to airlines miles, but it still preserves your points for when you get a future MR or MR 1st card.

Difference between MR and MR express? (just 'cuz I'm curious)
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Re: Receiving 100k amex plat promo without being targeted
« Reply #883 on: July 11, 2011, 04:07:36 PM »
Difference between MR and MR express? (just 'cuz I'm curious)

Phew, panicked for a second when I thought my PR Gold won't be able to transfer points. Here's a summary posted on April 2011: http://thepointsguy.com/2011/04/maximizing-amex-post-2-understanding-membership-rewards/

I think MR express doesn't let you transfer, and gets worst redemption values on stuff. Other than that, same as MR regular, I suppose.

Btw, any thoughts on my previous questions whether Amex will hold a grudge if I cancel so soon after I bled my Plat card dry of all its perks?

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Re: Receiving 100k amex plat promo without being targeted
« Reply #884 on: July 11, 2011, 04:10:40 PM »
Btw, any thoughts on my previous questions whether Amex will hold a grudge if I cancel so soon after I bled my Plat card dry of all its perks?

I don't think so
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Re: Receiving 100k amex plat promo without being targeted
« Reply #885 on: July 11, 2011, 05:09:26 PM »
Btw, any thoughts on my previous questions whether Amex will hold a grudge if I cancel so soon after I bled my Plat card dry of all its perks?

They keep approving me, and others, after my quick Plat cancellation. 

I have a hunch that if you have at least one Amex card that you actually keep, or if you spend heavily when you do have one, it helps with future approvals.

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Re: Receiving 100k amex plat promo without being targeted
« Reply #886 on: July 11, 2011, 05:11:06 PM »
Difference between MR and MR express? (just 'cuz I'm curious)

The only material difference is you can't transfer to airline miles with MR Express.

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Re: Receiving 100k amex plat promo without being targeted
« Reply #887 on: July 11, 2011, 05:33:52 PM »
The only material difference is you can't transfer to airline miles with MR Express.

Isn't that the difference between MR 1st and MR (regular)?
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Re: Receiving 100k amex plat promo without being targeted
« Reply #888 on: July 11, 2011, 05:39:33 PM »
They keep approving me, and others, after my quick Plat cancellation. 

I have a hunch that if you have at least one Amex card that you actually keep, or if you spend heavily when you do have one, it helps with future approvals.
are thay not seeing in the system that you just apply for one and canceled it ? what do thay think ?

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Re: Receiving 100k amex plat promo without being targeted
« Reply #889 on: July 11, 2011, 05:43:44 PM »
are thay not seeing in the system that you just apply for one and canceled it ? what do thay think ?

They think: this is the cost of doing business. (...and, of course, that not everyone is going to be like DDF users.)

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Re: Receiving 100k amex plat promo without being targeted
« Reply #890 on: July 11, 2011, 06:06:52 PM »
Isn't that the difference between MR 1st and MR (regular)?

MR 1st - no significant benefit over MR

MR - can still transfer points to airlines miles

MR Express - cannont transfer points to airline miles

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Re: Receiving 100k amex plat promo without being targeted
« Reply #891 on: July 11, 2011, 06:07:40 PM »
MR 1st - no significant benefit over MR

MR - can still transfer points to airlines miles

MR Express - cannont transfer points to airline miles

So what's the difference between MR 1st and MR (regular). I'm curious about this.
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Re: Receiving 100k amex plat promo without being targeted
« Reply #892 on: July 11, 2011, 06:12:45 PM »
are thay not seeing in the system that you just apply for one and canceled it ? what do thay think ?

If a human looked at your future application, the question of why you canceled theoretically may come up.  But, AX is generally an instant approval, not an analyst reconsideration.

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Re: Receiving 100k amex plat promo without being targeted
« Reply #893 on: July 11, 2011, 06:14:49 PM »
So what's the difference between MR 1st and MR (regular). I'm curious about this.

According to the link posted by irleetnoob above:

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Includes all of the benefits of Membership Rewards, plus:
1) 25% bonus on Pay with Points redemptions for travel. Instead of 1 point= 1 cent, 1 point = 1.25 cents

2) Fine Hotels and Resorts program. When you book paid hotel stays with your Platinum/Centurion cards, you get room upgrades, free breakfast, late checkout and other premium benefits.

3) Free gifts from high-end retailers. In 2010 select Platinum card members got free Tumi bags. Centurion cardholders received $500 Salvatore Ferragamo gift cards.

4) Free companion ticket when you buy an international full-fare business or first class ticket.

5) Cruise booking discounts and perks
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Re: Receiving 100k amex plat promo without being targeted
« Reply #894 on: July 11, 2011, 06:16:41 PM »
If a human looked at your future application, the question of why you canceled theoretically may come up.  But, AX is generally an instant approval, not an analyst reconsideration.

I don't know where you get this info from, I've had my Amex apps pending for review many times.
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Re: Receiving 100k amex plat promo without being targeted
« Reply #895 on: July 11, 2011, 06:17:16 PM »
So what's the difference between MR 1st and MR (regular). I'm curious about this.

I can't remember, because there was nothing useful to remember about MR 1st.  I think you get a special monthly newsletter (lame), and a few other fluff perks that are economically irrelevant.

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Re: Receiving 100k amex plat promo without being targeted
« Reply #896 on: July 11, 2011, 06:19:11 PM »
I don't know where you get this info from, I've had my Amex apps pending for review many times.

My bad, this has just been my personal experience with Amex.  And since I often have to call for Chase analyst reconsideration, I just assumed that Amex was more instant approval friendly.

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Re: Receiving 100k amex plat promo without being targeted
« Reply #897 on: July 11, 2011, 06:20:29 PM »
My bad, this has just been my personal experience with Amex.  And since I often have to call for Chase analyst reconsideration, I just assumed that Amex was more instant approval friendly.

Maybe Amex just likes you :P
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Re: Receiving 100k amex plat promo without being targeted
« Reply #898 on: July 11, 2011, 06:20:46 PM »
Another success for someone whose account I help manage.. 5748 applied and granted today.

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Re: Receiving 100k amex plat promo without being targeted
« Reply #899 on: July 11, 2011, 06:25:32 PM »
They think: this is the cost of doing business. (...and, of course, that not everyone is going to be like DDF users.)

Trust me - they come out ahead.

That is true, although threads on this have shown up in the larger public forums (FT, FW, etc.)... the power of the internet to kill a deal cannot be underestimated. 
Losing say $1000 per quarter to a customer churning cards quickly multiplies to millions of dollars with thousands of people are participating.  AMEX's net income from U.S. credit cards last quarter was about $500 million, so it won't take long to make a dent as more and more 'churners' accumulate.  But hey, we can enjoy it while it lasts.