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By a random twist of pop corn fate, a truly disgusting hate crime was somehow connected with a Mordechai Ben David concert.

As it happens, Mordechai Ben David, of Yidden, Daddy Dear, Lichtigher Shabbos & other "controversies", turns out to be a racist.

Whether or not that makes him an idiot is up for discussion.

In other news, Mordechai Ben David is still the king.

South Africa is a beautiful place to visit, though its old flag is a symbol of its racist past. Oh, and the current Prime Minister can't count. That's not related to this thread, but it is something you should definitely know.

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Re: MBD Racist? And Other Split Popcorn
« Reply #285 on: January 06, 2017, 11:17:34 AM »
I'll take a stab at it
Or better, would I be considered racist if I said they could've been BHO's sons/daughters?

Or, what would the reaction be if Trump would say the victim could have been his son?
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Re: MBD Racist? And Other Split Popcorn
« Reply #286 on: January 06, 2017, 11:18:52 AM »
I take exception to the wiki.

What is more tasteless than pareve chulent?
If you don't care why would you comment?
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« Reply #287 on: January 06, 2017, 11:19:42 AM »
Or, what would the reaction be if Trump would say the victim could have been his son?
No need to go there. It is pretty obvious what is going on here.
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Re: MBD Racist? And Other Split Popcorn
« Reply #288 on: January 06, 2017, 11:23:53 AM »
No, the post I linked to.

This one? http://bogieworks.blogs.com/treppenwitz/2006/04/mirrors.html
Great read. And it's from 2006. Very poignant today! (This was not the post that i was responding to. Excellent perspective -- will bookmark this one.)

Still good singer comparison. That will put perspective on many things. It goes both ways, though. She made some cops look like they were planning to be evil, contriving murderers on a recent video.
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Re: MBD Racist? And Other Split Popcorn
« Reply #289 on: January 06, 2017, 11:24:49 AM »
No need to go there. It is pretty obvious what is going on here.

Why don't you spell it out for everyone.
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« Reply #290 on: January 06, 2017, 11:27:14 AM »
Why don't you spell it out for everyone.
They are trying ever deflection they can to keep the discussion away from MBD.
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Re: MBD Racist? And Other Split Popcorn
« Reply #291 on: January 06, 2017, 11:28:11 AM »
They are trying ever deflection they can to keep the discussion away from MBD.

And why would that be?
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« Reply #292 on: January 06, 2017, 11:28:51 AM »
And why would that be?
I will let you take that one.  :)
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Re: MBD Racist? And Other Split Popcorn
« Reply #293 on: January 06, 2017, 11:29:21 AM »
I'll take a stab at it
Or better, would I be considered racist if I said they could've been BHO's sons/daughters?
I actually think that such a statement should be considered to at the very least have racial undertones, if not outright racist.

When I asked to shift the discussion, and used all those adjectives, I am really trying to understand how could something like that happen in the USA in 2017.

There are a few elements here:
  • Cruelty - Unfortunately, we know that kids (especially if not taught better by their parents and educators) can be cruel, especially to someone less fortunate. However these were all adults (though young).
  • Hate - Despite the WH press secretary having difficulty, I think most reasonable people would say that there was hate involved here. Hate is a very strong emotion, but often comes from a lack of maturity or intelligence.
  • Stupidity - There are so many elements of that in this case. Why make a video? Why post it online? etc. etc.

I think America should have an open, probably painful, discussion, as to how could something like this have happened. My initial thought when I read about injuring the scalp, was of Jeffrey Dahmer! Now that was one sickening person acting alone, not a group of people acting together, joking and filming the acts, and then posting them online. I think there is a major cultural breakdown at the root of this, and it should be confronted and addressed, rather than avoided.
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Re: MBD Racist? And Other Split Popcorn
« Reply #294 on: January 06, 2017, 11:36:48 AM »
I will let you take that one.  :)

Because there is an accepted current of casual racism within the frum community that people pretend doesn't exist when we're having discussions online with people like you around. Then we'll go kicking and screaming chilul Hashem for all kinds of other things, but when someone like MBD slips "Kushi" out in concert, on video, we'll twist ourselves into pretzels to defend him rather than admit it is something we hear in the mikvah every other day.

I'm so going to regret this comment.
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« Reply #295 on: January 06, 2017, 11:42:40 AM »
I am not going to quote it in case you change your mind. Most of the time the truth does hurt.
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« Reply #296 on: January 06, 2017, 11:44:07 AM »
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Re: MBD Racist? And Other Split Popcorn
« Reply #297 on: January 06, 2017, 11:44:34 AM »
Methinks you are conflating frum community with NYC and South African community...
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« Reply #298 on: January 06, 2017, 11:46:13 AM »
Methinks you are conflating frum community with NYC and South African community...
That is PC all by itself.
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Re: MBD Racist? And Other Split Popcorn
« Reply #299 on: January 06, 2017, 11:49:42 AM »
Methinks you are conflating frum community with NYC community...
Nah. I've been around. I'm from South Africa - you know how many people joke with me that I probably wish for the good old apartheid days? Mind you, they don't know what apartheid meant, but nonetheless.

It's not an issue limited to the frum community. Every community will have its prejudices. We can only deal with our own issues. But this is not widely viewed as an issue
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