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By a random twist of pop corn fate, a truly disgusting hate crime was somehow connected with a Mordechai Ben David concert.

As it happens, Mordechai Ben David, of Yidden, Daddy Dear, Lichtigher Shabbos & other "controversies", turns out to be a racist.

Whether or not that makes him an idiot is up for discussion.

In other news, Mordechai Ben David is still the king.

South Africa is a beautiful place to visit, though its old flag is a symbol of its racist past. Oh, and the current Prime Minister can't count. That's not related to this thread, but it is something you should definitely know.

Midweek parev cholent was served. For a wider, more tasteless menu, please visit the "Pick your Poison" thread.
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Re: Re: Link to popcorn threads.
« Reply #120 on: January 05, 2017, 01:42:38 PM »
Surprised that neither the Chicago kidnapping and live streamed torture, nor the racist MBD video have started pc discussions.
are we really arguing if MBD is a racist when this video was suggested as alternate popcorn?

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Re: Re: Link to popcorn threads.
« Reply #121 on: January 05, 2017, 01:45:45 PM »
Me calling him an idiot for screaming racism in front of thousands is the same as him being an actual racist?
You're right
Although, I still think that you have no business calling him (or anybody for that matter) and idiot, just as much as he has no business calling the president what he did. You can call him a racist all you want, but you can't call him an idiot for that
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Re: Re: Link to popcorn threads.
« Reply #122 on: January 05, 2017, 01:49:08 PM »
Although, I still think that you have no business calling him (or anybody for that matter) and idiot, just as much as he has no business calling the president what he did. You can call him a racist all you want, but you can't call him an idiot for that

Ok, we just disagree on the definition of idiot. I think racism is a form of idiocy.
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Re: Re: Link to popcorn threads.
« Reply #123 on: January 05, 2017, 03:31:53 PM »
You don't need to be an Ivrit or linguistic expert to know that when 100% of the times you've heard a specific word it has been pejorative, the word is a racist slur.

In my experience, Kushi is used the same way "black" is used in the US (namely, it can be racist based on the context and tone of voice, but is not always).

Having said that, here it clearly was used in a racist way.

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Re: MBD Racist? And Other Split Popcorn
« Reply #124 on: January 05, 2017, 03:44:40 PM »
Should I start a thread for "Name that idiot"?
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Re: MBD Racist? And Other Split Popcorn
« Reply #125 on: January 05, 2017, 03:56:33 PM »
Wait, I'm confused, is this the thread for discussing the Chicago incident?

Anywho, what's more sickening than the incident is the coverage. I heard it reported on 880 this morning as follows:

A group of Chicago teenagers attacked a mentally disabled boy. Police say the attack had racial undertones and the attackers mentioned Donald Trump. End of segment.
If you don't care why would you comment?
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Re: Re: Link to popcorn threads.
« Reply #126 on: January 05, 2017, 03:59:28 PM »
For context, in the world of Jewish music, MBD is as big a name as there is. This incident only shows me he is as much an idiot as he he is talented.

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Re: Re: Link to popcorn threads.
« Reply #127 on: January 05, 2017, 04:01:37 PM »
Ok, we just disagree on the definition of idiot. I think racism is a form of idiocy.
Reminds me of a close relative of mine who grew up in South Africa, and doesn't consider herself to be one bit racist (on the contrary). Yet one time when I was shopping with her (at Macy's IIRC) she points to an employee and says to me "ask that African where the restrooms are".

For the record, I agree with you 100% that racism is idiocy.
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Re: MBD Racist? And Other Split Popcorn
« Reply #128 on: January 05, 2017, 04:04:34 PM »
Wait, I'm confused, is this the thread for discussing the Chicago incident?

Anywho, what's more sickening than the incident is the coverage. I heard it reported on 880 this morning as follows:

A group of Chicago teenagers attacked a mentally disabled boy. Police say the attack had racial undertones and the attackers mentioned Donald Trump. End of segment.
You still let your blood boil every time the MDM (Mentally Disabled Media) twists something ?

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Re: Re: Link to popcorn threads.
« Reply #129 on: January 05, 2017, 04:09:31 PM »
Reminds me of a close relative of mine who grew up in South Africa, and doesn't consider herself to be one bit racist (on the contrary). Yet one time when I was shopping with her (at Macy's IIRC) she points to an employee and says to me "ask that African where the restrooms are".

For the record, I agree with you 100% that racism is idiocy.

I grew up in South Africa, too. She sounds like she is an older generation than me - African would have been a perfectly acceptable term for a black person.

Anyway, you have an undoubtedly meat loving close relative  - close enough that you even shop with her in Macys (!) - yet you still go for parev cholent? Geez.
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Re: Re: Link to popcorn threads.
« Reply #130 on: January 05, 2017, 04:10:36 PM »
Anyway, you have an undoubtedly meat loving close relative  - close enough that you even shop with her in Macys (!) - yet you still go for parev cholent? Geez.
Where do you get that idea from? She only eats meat when she visits me!

ETA: and she absolutely loves my DW's pareve cholent, so much so that she asks for it mid-week too!
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Re: Re: Link to popcorn threads.
« Reply #131 on: January 05, 2017, 04:11:57 PM »
Where do you get that idea from? She only eats meat when she visits me!

Grew up in South Africa and not meat loving? Stirah minei ubei
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Re: Re: Link to popcorn threads.
« Reply #132 on: January 05, 2017, 04:17:09 PM »
Grew up in South Africa and not meat loving? Stirah minei ubei
If you would say Argentina, you would be right. But as you said, we're talking about an older generation, and probably been out of SA for longer than she lived there.
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Re: Re: Link to popcorn threads.
« Reply #133 on: January 05, 2017, 04:23:08 PM »
If you would say Argentina, you would be right. But as you said, we're talking about an older generation, and probably been out of SA for longer than she lived there.

Oh man, I'm feeling old. I just realized the same will be said for me in a year.
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Re: Re: Link to popcorn threads.
« Reply #134 on: January 05, 2017, 04:29:48 PM »
Oh man, I'm feeling old. I just realized the same will be said for me in a year.
Nah. She's closer to 2x out of SA than time in SA (or RSA as it was known when I was younger).

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