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By a random twist of pop corn fate, a truly disgusting hate crime was somehow connected with a Mordechai Ben David concert.

As it happens, Mordechai Ben David, of Yidden, Daddy Dear, Lichtigher Shabbos & other "controversies", turns out to be a racist.

Whether or not that makes him an idiot is up for discussion.

In other news, Mordechai Ben David is still the king.

South Africa is a beautiful place to visit, though its old flag is a symbol of its racist past. Oh, and the current Prime Minister can't count. That's not related to this thread, but it is something you should definitely know.

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Re: MBD Racist? And Other Split Popcorn
« Reply #135 on: January 05, 2017, 04:52:17 PM »
Nah. She's closer to 2x out of SA than time in SA (or RSA as it was known when I was younger).


That's a racist symbol
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Re: MBD Racist? And Other Split Popcorn
« Reply #136 on: January 05, 2017, 05:00:03 PM »
http://ntknetwork.com/white-house-too-early-to-tell-if-chicago-beating-was-a-hate-crime/
After shooting the mouth off for 8 years all of a sudden they're being cautious. ::)

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Re: MBD Racist? And Other Split Popcorn
« Reply #137 on: January 05, 2017, 05:05:09 PM »
That's a racist symbol
Is it? How so? Just because it was the flag before apartheid was abolished?

I agree 100% that apartheid is wrong and racist. But does that flag symbolize it?

If I have friends who emigrated from a country I fondly knew as Rhodesia rather than Zimbabwe, is that racist? Is Robert Mugabe racist? How about Ian Smith?

And if something or someone is racist, should we just label them that way and avoid all intellectual discussion? Recent news has it that Mein Kampf has become a best seller in Germany. I have contemplated reading it, as I think there is much to be gained by understanding what your enemy is saying, but I have refrained as I'm unsure it's a right thing to do. Is reading it any worse or different that reading or watching the Wannseekonferenz?
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Re: MBD Racist? And Other Split Popcorn
« Reply #138 on: January 05, 2017, 05:05:27 PM »
That's a racist symbol
Just wondering if nostalgia about having slaves in SA makes one racist...or idiots as you would call them.
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« Reply #139 on: January 05, 2017, 05:07:40 PM »
Reminds me of a close relative of mine who grew up in South Africa, and doesn't consider herself to be one bit racist (on the contrary). Yet one time when I was shopping with her (at Macy's IIRC) she points to an employee and says to me "ask that African where the restrooms are".

For the record, I agree with you 100% that racism is idiocy.

in her mind, it was like asking "the blonde lady over there" where the item is...  a basic, objective description. They use it in "Missing persons alerts", too.
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Re: Re: Link to popcorn threads.
« Reply #140 on: January 05, 2017, 05:09:00 PM »
in her mind, it was like asking "the blonde lady over there" where the item is...  a basic, objective description. They use it in "Missing persons alerts", too.
You're hypothesizing, I actually heard it!

ETA: it's probably as objective as the term blonde is  ;)
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Re: MBD Racist? And Other Split Popcorn
« Reply #141 on: January 05, 2017, 05:14:23 PM »
That's a racist symbol
only if you refer to the other as the K%^*% flag lfi aniyas dayti

oh the flag went up do we now sing Die Stem ?  :P

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Re: MBD Racist? And Other Split Popcorn
« Reply #142 on: January 05, 2017, 05:16:22 PM »
http://ntknetwork.com/white-house-too-early-to-tell-if-chicago-beating-was-a-hate-crime/
After shooting the mouth off for 8 years all of a sudden they're being cautious. ::)
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I didnt see the video. Is this true?
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Re: MBD Racist? And Other Split Popcorn
« Reply #143 on: January 05, 2017, 05:19:01 PM »
Is it? How so? Just because it was the flag before apartheid was abolished?

I agree 100% that apartheid is wrong and racist. But does that flag symbolize it?

If I have friends who emigrated from a country I fondly knew as Rhodesia rather than Zimbabwe, is that racist? Is Robert Mugabe racist? How about Ian Smith?

And if something or someone is racist, should we just label them that way and avoid all intellectual discussion? Recent news has it that Mein Kampf has become a best seller in Germany. I have contemplated reading it, as I think there is much to be gained by understanding what your enemy is saying, but I have refrained as I'm unsure it's a right thing to do. Is reading it any worse or different that reading or watching the Wannseekonferenz?

Does that flag symbolize it? Yes. Because racists use it as such. So even if it wasn't a racist symbol per se, but to you was a symbol of nostalgia or whatnot, it has become one.
Is Robert Mugabe racist? Yes

I do not know about Rhodizia vs Zimbabwe - I cannot speak for the cultural implications.

Just wondering if nostalgia about having slaves in SA makes one racist...or idiots as you would call them.

Slaves was America, not South Africa. But yes, if you're nostalgic for Apartheid days specifically (not experiences you happen to have had during Apartheid) you are racist and an idiot. I hope that's not controversial.
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Re: MBD Racist? And Other Split Popcorn
« Reply #144 on: January 05, 2017, 05:21:10 PM »
while shouting [Profanity] Donald Trump! [Profanity] white people!

I didnt see the video. Is this true?
It was as hate-filled as you'll ever see.

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Re: MBD Racist? And Other Split Popcorn
« Reply #145 on: January 05, 2017, 05:22:53 PM »
It was as hate-filled as you'll ever see.
Yes it was hate filled but I have seen a lot worse.
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Re: MBD Racist? And Other Split Popcorn
« Reply #146 on: January 05, 2017, 05:23:15 PM »
It was as hate-filled as you'll ever see.

the painful torture component of strangulation and ripping out hair/scalp from a mentally challenged human being whose mouth is sealed shut while kidnapped and shoved in to a corner adds to the raw agony.
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Re: MBD Racist? And Other Split Popcorn
« Reply #147 on: January 05, 2017, 05:25:45 PM »
Yes it was hate filled but I have seen a lot worse.
I was addressing him. Every time you watch the president-elect you see worse :P

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Re: MBD Racist? And Other Split Popcorn
« Reply #148 on: January 05, 2017, 05:27:11 PM »
It was as hate-filled as you'll ever see.

But it is not racism. Racism can only be "hate + privilege."*

*This is a real thing. I didn't make it up, promise.
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Re: MBD Racist? And Other Split Popcorn
« Reply #149 on: January 05, 2017, 05:28:33 PM »
Every time you watch the president-elect you see worse :P
Nothing he has done comes close. Hopefully in 4 years I can say the same thing.
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