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By a random twist of pop corn fate, a truly disgusting hate crime was somehow connected with a Mordechai Ben David concert.

As it happens, Mordechai Ben David, of Yidden, Daddy Dear, Lichtigher Shabbos & other "controversies", turns out to be a racist.

Whether or not that makes him an idiot is up for discussion.

In other news, Mordechai Ben David is still the king.

South Africa is a beautiful place to visit, though its old flag is a symbol of its racist past. Oh, and the current Prime Minister can't count. That's not related to this thread, but it is something you should definitely know.

Midweek parev cholent was served. For a wider, more tasteless menu, please visit the "Pick your Poison" thread.
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Re: MBD Racist? And Other Split Popcorn
« Reply #150 on: January 05, 2017, 05:29:18 PM »
a. But yes, if you're nostalgic for Apartheid days specifically (not experiences you happen to have had during Apartheid) you are racist and an idiot. I hope that's not controversial.
depends what party of it
Would i rather have white rule then the Kleptocracy that is going on now? In SA they've just replaced Apartheid with their own version of Apartheid. Black Empowerment. The whole BEE is one big Apartheid
Was Apartheid moral in any way shape or form? of course not...

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Re: MBD Racist? And Other Split Popcorn
« Reply #151 on: January 05, 2017, 05:33:40 PM »
only if you refer to the other as the K%^*% flag lfi aniyas dayti

oh the flag went up do we now sing Die Stem ?  :P

Want to know if something is racist? Look to see how or when it is used. When is that flag ever flown? At rugby games by people who are very clearly pushing a racist agenda and other overtly racist events. Ergo > flag is racist. Also, think about that flag means to any (south African) black person. Want someone to feel as sick as this flag makes them feel? that's racist. 

And you can only sing the part of Die Stem that is in the new anthem. ;-)
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Re: MBD Racist? And Other Split Popcorn
« Reply #152 on: January 05, 2017, 05:52:44 PM »
Want to know if something is racist? Look to see how or when it is used. When is that flag ever flown? At rugby games by people who are very clearly pushing a racist agenda and other overtly racist events. Ergo > flag is racist. Also, think about that flag means to any (south African) black person. Want someone to feel as sick as this flag makes them feel? that's racist. 


You mean in SA after 1994.

I've never been to SA myself (despite having some family there), and when I grew up, that was the SA flag I knew, and as a kid I actually thought it was nice and colorful (or colourful as I would have spelled it back then). When I posted it here, my only intention was to indicate which era my SA relative came from. No racist intentions. And despite that relative probably thinking that I am biased and racist, I can say with certainty that I am way more open minded and accepting of diversity than she is.
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Re: MBD Racist? And Other Split Popcorn
« Reply #153 on: January 05, 2017, 05:54:10 PM »
depends what party of it
Would i rather have white rule then the Kleptocracy that is going on now? In SA they've just replaced Apartheid with their own version of Apartheid. Black Empowerment. The whole BEE is one big Apartheid
Was Apartheid moral in any way shape or form? of course not...
As I said nostalgic for experiences that were during apartheid? Obviously not racist. Nostalgic for apartheid itself? Racist.

Acknowledging the horrors of apartheid does not mean any approval of the current government whatsoever. It's not a one or the other deal.
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Re: MBD Racist? And Other Split Popcorn
« Reply #154 on: January 05, 2017, 05:55:27 PM »
You mean in SA after 1994.

I've never been to SA myself (despite having some family there), and when I grew up, that was the SA flag I knew, and as a kid I actually thought it was nice and colorful (or colourful as I would have spelled it back then). When I posted it here, my only intention was to indicate which era my SA relative came from. No racist intentions. And despite that relative probably thinking that I am biased and racist, I can say with certainty that I am way more open minded and accepting of diversity than she is.
Ftr, I didn't think you were posting it as a racist symbol. I was informing you of what it has become.
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Re: MBD Racist? And Other Split Popcorn
« Reply #155 on: January 05, 2017, 05:56:13 PM »
And you should go! It's beautiful
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Re: MBD Racist? And Other Split Popcorn
« Reply #156 on: January 05, 2017, 05:56:55 PM »
As I said nostalgic for experiences that were during apartheid? Obviously not racist. Nostalgic for apartheid itself? Racist.

Acknowledging the horrors of apartheid does not mean any approval of the current government whatsoever. It's not a one or the other deal.
You, as an intelligent, thinking person, can say that. But unfortunately, the masses tend to see things as black and white (no pun intended), and hate mongers thrive upon that shortcoming of the masses.
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Re: MBD Racist? And Other Split Popcorn
« Reply #157 on: January 05, 2017, 06:10:10 PM »
And you should go! It's beautiful
I've been wanting to go for decades. Now that I have a large family, it is unlikely to happen unless there's a Chasuna of a close relative on DW's side, or after all my kids are grown (which could be a couple of decades from now, probably after the התגלות).
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Re: MBD Racist? And Other Split Popcorn
« Reply #158 on: January 05, 2017, 06:12:05 PM »
Ftr, I didn't think you were posting it as a racist symbol. I was informing you of what it has become.
yeah Dylan Roof was running around with it

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Re: MBD Racist? And Other Split Popcorn
« Reply #159 on: January 05, 2017, 06:14:57 PM »
yeah Dylan Roof was running around with it
So when an imbecile nincompoop does something, it creates a meaning?
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Re: MBD Racist? And Other Split Popcorn
« Reply #160 on: January 05, 2017, 07:23:14 PM »
So when an imbecile nincompoop does something, it creates a meaning?
It can. As I would say to those who were using the swastika as a peaceful symbol for centuries before Hitler ymsh adopted it
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Re: MBD Racist? And Other Split Popcorn
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Re: MBD Racist? And Other Split Popcorn
« Reply #162 on: January 05, 2017, 07:48:08 PM »
It can. As I would say to those who were using the swastika as a peaceful symbol for centuries before Hitler ymsh adopted it
There's a difference between one idiot doing it and an entire movement/country.
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Re: MBD Racist? And Other Split Popcorn
« Reply #163 on: January 05, 2017, 08:40:27 PM »
Thread recap?
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Re: MBD Racist? And Other Split Popcorn
« Reply #164 on: January 05, 2017, 08:42:25 PM »
Thread recap?
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