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By a random twist of pop corn fate, a truly disgusting hate crime was somehow connected with a Mordechai Ben David concert.

As it happens, Mordechai Ben David, of Yidden, Daddy Dear, Lichtigher Shabbos & other "controversies", turns out to be a racist.

Whether or not that makes him an idiot is up for discussion.

In other news, Mordechai Ben David is still the king.

South Africa is a beautiful place to visit, though its old flag is a symbol of its racist past. Oh, and the current Prime Minister can't count. That's not related to this thread, but it is something you should definitely know.

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Re: MBD Racist? And Other Split Popcorn
« Reply #240 on: January 06, 2017, 01:43:35 AM »
That Jew should keep his mouth shut!  >:(

contrast to

Bibi should keep his mouth shut.  :)
It still depends on the context.

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Re: MBD Racist? And Other Split Popcorn
« Reply #241 on: January 06, 2017, 01:44:59 AM »
As it should be.
It's worse than what MBD said, but I wouldn't brand you an anti-Semite based on one comment.

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Re: MBD Racist? And Other Split Popcorn
« Reply #242 on: January 06, 2017, 01:45:48 AM »
It still depends on the context.
That Jew should stop attacking Obama!  >:(

Bibi should stop attacking Obama.

Is that better for context?
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Re: MBD Racist? And Other Split Popcorn
« Reply #243 on: January 06, 2017, 01:49:41 AM »
That Jew should stop attacking Obama!  >:(

Bibi should stop attacking Obama.

Is that better for context?
Possibly. More context would still be helpful. For example, if we were discussing stoking anti-Semitism in the black community, it would be relevant to point out that as a Jew, Bibi's negative comments would have a stronger affect than a non-Jew's attack.

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« Reply #244 on: January 06, 2017, 01:51:25 AM »
Possibly. More context would still be helpful.
UN resolution.
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« Reply #245 on: January 06, 2017, 01:56:47 AM »
UN resolution.
Correct. It was much more of an anti-Obama comment than an anti-black comment, said out of anger at the UN resolution. I don't think it's fair to paint a man a racist based on that.

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Re: MBD Racist? And Other Split Popcorn
« Reply #246 on: January 06, 2017, 03:09:18 AM »
I think you all need to be truthful with yourselves. If BO came out tomorrow in his speech and called Jews a disparaging name he would immediately and for all eternity be labeled an anti-Semite by everyone here. You wouldn't give him the "one time" pass.

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« Reply #247 on: January 06, 2017, 03:11:46 AM »
I think you all need to be truthful with yourselves. If BO came out tomorrow in his speech and called Jews a disparaging name he would immediately and for all eternity be labeled an anti-Semite by everyone here. You wouldn't give him the "one time" pass.
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« Reply #248 on: January 06, 2017, 03:38:51 AM »
I think you all need to be truthful with yourselves. If BO came out tomorrow in his speech and called Jews a disparaging name he would immediately and for all eternity be labeled an anti-Semite by everyone here. You wouldn't give him the "one time" pass.
There is a difference between a) a politician b) giving a speech vs a singer at a concert pumped up from a song about peace saying a derogatory term.

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Re: MBD Racist? And Other Split Popcorn
« Reply #249 on: January 06, 2017, 03:44:40 AM »
There is a difference between a) a politician b) giving a speech vs a singer at a concert pumped up from a song about peace saying a derogatory term.
No there isn't. But OK, change the BO speech to a private BO fundraiser with a leaked video.

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« Reply #250 on: January 06, 2017, 03:51:16 AM »
No there isn't. But OK, change the BO speech to a private BO fundraiser with a leaked video.
I agree that he should apologize, just not with your comparisons.

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Re: MBD Racist? And Other Split Popcorn
« Reply #251 on: January 06, 2017, 03:58:34 AM »
I agree that he should apologize, just not with your comparisons.
OK, so help me understand. In which case would you excuse a derogatory one time comment about Jews and not brand someone an anti-Semite?

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Re: MBD Racist? And Other Split Popcorn
« Reply #252 on: January 06, 2017, 04:07:03 AM »
OK, so help me understand. In which case would you excuse a derogatory one time comment about Jews and not brand someone an anti-Semite?
Once again, apologize he should, you just can't compare him to a politician/ POTUS. Politicians have political apponents that blow it up for their personal advantage making it a given that such stories shouldn't happen. I also don't believe that he meant it in a racial way, just as
1. You can imagine that Obama ain't that popular in Israel these days...( UN, Paris, Kerry speech )

2. I don't even know if he's for Trump

But once again he should've apologized already.

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Re: MBD Racist? And Other Split Popcorn
« Reply #253 on: January 06, 2017, 04:10:42 AM »
Once again, apologize he should, you just can't compare him to a politician/ POTUS. Politicians have political apponents that blow it up for their personal advantage making it a given that such stories shouldn't happen. I also don't believe that he meant it in a racial way, just as
But once again he should've apologized already.
I understand. So I simply asked for a case where you would excuse a public figure for an anti Semitic comment. You haven't answered that.

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Re: MBD Racist? And Other Split Popcorn
« Reply #254 on: January 06, 2017, 05:48:27 AM »
But once again he should've apologized already.
If he doesn't apologize or explain that he didn't mean it that way then you can only draw one conclusion.
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Re: MBD Racist? And Other Split Popcorn
« Reply #255 on: January 06, 2017, 07:26:19 AM »
Should be easy to find but I have had no luck so far.
He is not covered nearly as extensively as secular performers. Between concerts and recording you don't really hear from him. The public apology never comes other than in response to or anticipation of a public outcry in the media which has not happened to the extent that he would feel a need to do more than just ignore it. The story is already over in his eyes and to make a statement now would only stir the pot. We will never know whether or not he regrets it.
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« Reply #256 on: January 06, 2017, 07:28:11 AM »
He is not covered nearly as extensively as secular performers. Between concerts and recording you don't really hear from him. The public apology never comes other than in response to or anticipation of a public outcry in the media which has not happened to the extent that he would feel a need to do more than just ignore it. The story is already over in his eyes and to make a statement now would only stir the pot. We will never know whether or not he regrets it.
If that is the case then he fails my goalpost standard.
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« Reply #257 on: January 06, 2017, 07:30:51 AM »
If that is the case then he fails my goalpost standard.
He probably does but more because he is probably not as sensitive to the issue as he should be that due to being racist.
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Re: MBD Racist? And Other Split Popcorn
« Reply #258 on: January 06, 2017, 08:08:43 AM »
There is a difference between a) a politician b) giving a speech vs a singer at a concert pumped up from a song about peace saying a derogatory term.
You are definitely onto something here.

I would expand on that to offer the following perspective here: A performer becomes successful, not only because of his singing talent, but because of his ability to connect to the crowd. I think that MBD is not a racist in heart. He might despise BHO, like many do, for one reason or another. Using the term Kushi in front of an Israeli crowd of concert goers was his way to attempt to connect with that crowd.

He should apologize and everyone should move on to discuss the horrific, racist, sub human, cruel, thing that occurred in Chicago (would I be considered racist if I mentioned it is BHO'S and Rahm Emanuel's home town?) and the sickening video of it.
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Re: MBD Racist? And Other Split Popcorn
« Reply #259 on: January 06, 2017, 08:23:21 AM »
He should apologize and everyone should move on to discuss the horrific, racist, sub human, cruel, thing that occurred in Chicago (would I be considered racist if I mentioned it is BHO'S and Rahm Emanuel's home town?) and the sickening video of it.
+1 this place is like the UN. You have overtly race /hate based cases of ugly violence and torture, human rights violation, mistreating disabled people etc. All well documented. But instead we have a unanimous resolution excoriating the fact that, in Israel, someone's feelings may have been hurt
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