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Re: Taharas Hamishpacha Article Discussion For The Married Folk...
« Reply #140 on: January 08, 2017, 08:30:40 PM »
if you can't watch your wife go would you let her swim in a river alone?
It's obviously an AYLOR situation for what exactly to do. Just curious what people have done when it comes up.
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Re: Taharas Hamishpacha Article Discussion For The Married Folk...
« Reply #141 on: January 08, 2017, 08:33:14 PM »
if you can't watch your wife go would you let her swim in a river alone?
You can watch if no one else around.
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Re: Taharas Hamishpacha Article Discussion For The Married Folk...
« Reply #142 on: January 08, 2017, 08:33:20 PM »
So, anyone else have experience with this 🙈
http://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/ask-the-expert-using-the-ocean-as-a-mikveh

Definitely an AYLOR moment. I know that one of the concerns is that a it may be rushed, (because of fear of being seen or cold) and therefore she may not be careful to toivel completely.

Also, with all due respect to Rebbetzin Shusterman, taking a swim before sounds like asking for a chatzitza.

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Re: Taharas Hamishpacha Article Discussion For The Married Folk...
« Reply #143 on: January 08, 2017, 08:34:30 PM »
It's obviously an AYLOR situation. Just curious what people have done when it comes up.
Been there done that.
Was is a camp for the summer many years ago and the closest mik was well over an hour away. Rabbi said to use the lake.

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Re: Taharas Hamishpacha Article Discussion For The Married Folk...
« Reply #144 on: January 08, 2017, 08:37:10 PM »
if you can't watch your wife go would you let her swim in a river alone?
She needs to be with someone. According to many of the is no choice it can be her husband.
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Re: Taharas Hamishpacha Article Discussion For The Married Folk...
« Reply #145 on: January 08, 2017, 08:37:53 PM »
I think a lot of people would benefit from knowing what's permitted AL pi halacha and what's just being more machmir etc.   You'd have less people completely throwing it all away and for those struggling to the degree of those in the article it could help their yiddeshkeit a lot IMO.
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Re: Taharas Hamishpacha Article Discussion For The Married Folk...
« Reply #146 on: January 08, 2017, 08:39:48 PM »
I think a lot of people would benefit from knowing what's permitted AL pi halacha and what's just being more machmir etc.   You'd have less people completely throwing it all away and for those struggling to the degree of those in the article it could help their yiddeshkeit a lot IMO.

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Re: Taharas Hamishpacha Article Discussion For The Married Folk...
« Reply #147 on: January 08, 2017, 08:42:49 PM »
Seems like everyone has the same soundbite.
Yes, it's arguably better longterm for the relationship. It doesn't mean that it doesn't make things more difficult in the short term.
That soundbite also over generalizes touching as being only sexual. Touching can be an effective way to show compassion, empathy etc. We lose out on that opportunity during Nedah.

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Re: Taharas Hamishpacha Article Discussion For The Married Folk...
« Reply #148 on: January 08, 2017, 08:46:53 PM »
I think a lot of people would benefit from knowing what's permitted AL pi halacha and what's just being more machmir etc.   You'd have less people completely throwing it all away and for those struggling to the degree of those in the article it could help their yiddeshkeit a lot IMO.
Why do I always find that I agree with every comment of yours ,


I totally agree with your observation & your previous comment in this thread

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Re: Taharas Hamishpacha Article Discussion For The Married Folk...
« Reply #149 on: January 08, 2017, 08:48:04 PM »
Btw can anyone explain the logic in not being able to hand over a baby to the wife when she's a niddah

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Re: Taharas Hamishpacha Article Discussion For The Married Folk...
« Reply #150 on: January 08, 2017, 08:53:18 PM »
Btw can anyone explain the logic in not being able to hand over a baby to the wife when she's a niddah
Question. Does halacha = logical?
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Re: Taharas Hamishpacha Article Discussion For The Married Folk...
« Reply #151 on: January 08, 2017, 08:53:28 PM »
I think a lot of people would benefit from knowing what's permitted AL pi halacha and what's just being more machmir etc.   You'd have less people completely throwing it all away and for those struggling to the degree of those in the article it could help their yiddeshkeit a lot IMO.

The Chabad minhag is to learn chapters 15-17 in reshis chochma before getting married. Someone suggested to me that the reason we learn 15 (which is about food) is to give context for 16-17 which is about married life.

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Re: Taharas Hamishpacha Article Discussion For The Married Folk...
« Reply #152 on: January 08, 2017, 08:59:21 PM »
Been there done that.
Was is a camp for the summer many years ago and the closest mik was well over an hour away. Rabbi said to use the lake.
Definitely needs direct guidance from a lor for this.
Not all lakes are the same. Most are never kosher, some may be etc etc.

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Re: Taharas Hamishpacha Article Discussion For The Married Folk...
« Reply #153 on: January 08, 2017, 09:00:02 PM »
Btw can anyone explain the logic in not being able to hand over a baby to the wife when she's a niddah
Many learn that passing objects is an extension of the issur negiah. Very logical.

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Re: Taharas Hamishpacha Article Discussion For The Married Folk...
« Reply #154 on: January 08, 2017, 09:02:01 PM »
Question. Does halacha = logical?
Depends on how you define logic.

Halacha is logical if your mind accepts the parameters. After that it's almost mathematics.

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Re: Taharas Hamishpacha Article Discussion For The Married Folk...
« Reply #155 on: January 08, 2017, 09:05:22 PM »

don't know who wrote this but before my wedding, my rebba who is very chassidish told me the same thing in essence - in yiddish of course- and he added that the one of the reasons why we make such a big celebration for our wedding is to celebrate the Gevura of a Yid where he listens to hashem when no one is watching.

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Re: Taharas Hamishpacha Article Discussion For The Married Folk...
« Reply #156 on: January 08, 2017, 09:05:45 PM »
Depends on how you define logic.

Halacha is logical if your mind accepts the parameters. After that it's almost mathematics.
You think Halacha is always logical?
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Re: Taharas Hamishpacha Article Discussion For The Married Folk...
« Reply #157 on: January 08, 2017, 09:06:16 PM »
Halacha is both rigid and flexible. There are plenty of things that were repealed or scaled down because they were too difficult.

http://www.aishdas.org/avodah/faxes/RYE_pilegesh.pdf

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Re: Taharas Hamishpacha Article Discussion For The Married Folk...
« Reply #159 on: January 08, 2017, 09:08:12 PM »
You think Halacha is always logical?
I mean that we always analyse​ the sevara in each halacha in order to apply it to new scenarios. So this is a very logical exercise..