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Re: Taharas Hamishpacha Article Discussion For The Married Folk...
« Reply #220 on: January 09, 2017, 11:18:22 AM »

i'll attempt
#1 it's loose so it doesn;t neccessarily have to touch anywhere
#2 even if it does since it's tofiach al menas l'hatfiach (or even a step better than that), Hashaka will transfer the water to every part it needs to
obviously this isn;t something to rely upon l'chatchila, but then the question isn;t about L'chatchila

@dan would you use a Mikva that wasn;t bor al gabei bor beshas hadechak?

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Re: Taharas Hamishpacha Article Discussion For The Married Folk...
« Reply #222 on: January 09, 2017, 12:19:56 PM »
i'll attempt
#1 it's loose so it doesn;t neccessarily have to touch anywhere
#2 even if it does since it's tofiach al menas l'hatfiach (or even a step better than that), Hashaka will transfer the water to every part it needs to
obviously this isn;t something to rely upon l'chatchila, but then the question isn;t about L'chatchila

@dan would you use a Mikva that wasn;t bor al gabei bor beshas hadechak?
I think that is what needs to be defined.

There are many things that might be acceptable, but we wouldn't do lechatchila. Is "honeymooning" or for that matter any other trip that we were willing to spend a lot (money or points) for considered enough of a sha'as hadechak?
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Taharas Hamishpacha Article Discussion For The Married Folk...
« Reply #223 on: January 09, 2017, 12:25:54 PM »
I think that is what needs to be defined.

There are many things that might be acceptable, but we wouldn't do lechatchila. Is "honeymooning" or for that matter any other trip that we were willing to spend a lot (money or points) for considered enough of a sha'as hadechak?
if i pulled out the calendar made a reasonable guess (assuming vest kavu'a with a +/-1 variable )  6 months in advance booked an once in a lifetime DDF special
then all the was a change or miscalculation and instead of the week before, yom tevila came out the day we arrived...
(all babysitting arranged etc etc) yes i'd call that shas hadechak

would you use a mikva that wasn;t bor al gabei bor?

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Re: Taharas Hamishpacha Article Discussion For The Married Folk...
« Reply #224 on: January 09, 2017, 12:36:58 PM »
if i pulled out the calendar made a reasonable guess (assuming vest kavu'a with a +/-1 variable )  6 months in advance booked an once in a lifetime DDF special
then all the was a change or miscalculation and instead of the week before, yom tevila came out the day we arrived...
(all babysitting arranged etc etc) yes i'd call that shas hadechak

would you use a mikva that wasn;t bor al gabei bor?

Try making those calculations while rushing to book a glitch fare ;-)

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Re: Taharas Hamishpacha Article Discussion For The Married Folk...
« Reply #225 on: January 09, 2017, 12:37:02 PM »
DW's trauma was not about that.

Imagine being used to going only into an upscale hotel bathroom, and having to go to a youth hostel bathroom instead.

That's your fault for not doing research! There are options.

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Re: Taharas Hamishpacha Article Discussion For The Married Folk...
« Reply #227 on: January 09, 2017, 02:05:13 PM »
That's your fault for not doing research! There are options.
I actually did the research.

I asked someone where I can find American Style

would you use a mikva that wasn;t bor al gabei bor?

I was given a few options, with a recommendation for Beit Shemesh. However when time came DW decided to go to the closest one on the list we were given. Bor al gabei Bor it was. But far from American style.
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Taharas Hamishpacha Article Discussion For The Married Folk...
« Reply #228 on: January 09, 2017, 02:16:10 PM »

@dan would you use a Mikva that wasn;t bor al gabei bor beshas hadechak?

I don't know if anyone wouldn't. Crown heights didn't even have a bor al gabei bor until at least the 70s (maybe even later).

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Re: Taharas Hamishpacha Article Discussion For The Married Folk...
« Reply #229 on: January 09, 2017, 02:19:54 PM »
I don't know if anyone wouldn't. Crown heights didn't even have a bor al gabei bor until at least the 70s (maybe even later).
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Re: Taharas Hamishpacha Article Discussion For The Married Folk...
« Reply #230 on: January 09, 2017, 02:24:58 PM »
:o

Let me correct myself;

I don't know of any Rov who would say not to.

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Re: Taharas Hamishpacha Article Discussion For The Married Folk...
« Reply #231 on: January 09, 2017, 02:32:42 PM »
Let me correct myself;

I don't know of any Rov who would say not to.
I didn;t know one way or the other
Just wanted to know what they considered B'dieved or Sha'as Hadchak

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Re: Taharas Hamishpacha Article Discussion For The Married Folk...
« Reply #233 on: January 09, 2017, 02:51:05 PM »
I didn;t know one way or the other
Just wanted to know what they considered B'dieved or Sha'as Hadchak

From personal experience, driving an hour and 15 minutes qualified.

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Re: Taharas Hamishpacha Article Discussion For The Married Folk...
« Reply #234 on: January 09, 2017, 02:52:27 PM »
From personal experience, driving an hour and 15 minutes qualified.
Interesting, as that would be the halocho by alot of thing such as washing for bread

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Re: Taharas Hamishpacha Article Discussion For The Married Folk...
« Reply #235 on: January 09, 2017, 03:00:58 PM »
Interesting, as that would be the halocho by alot of thing such as washing for bread

I don't think that was the minimum. That time was what I asked the Rov, not what the Rov told me.

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Re: Taharas Hamishpacha Article Discussion For The Married Folk...
« Reply #236 on: January 09, 2017, 03:06:41 PM »
Stupid article.  What's the point of even discussing it?
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Classic liberal nonsense. From the same news outlet that has an obscure reality on all kinds of topics including this one.

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Re: Taharas Hamishpacha Article Discussion For The Married Folk...
« Reply #237 on: January 09, 2017, 03:14:33 PM »
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In general, even in the US, chassidishe mikva lady's perform a full and intrusive examination for chatziza as opposed to the casual glance done by others...
for the record thats not true, even in satmar they only look at the nails and maybe the back(as its a place u cant see yourself)

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Re: Taharas Hamishpacha Article Discussion For The Married Folk...
« Reply #238 on: January 09, 2017, 03:33:16 PM »
for the record thats not true, even in satmar they only look at the nails and maybe the back(as its a place u cant see yourself)
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And even when they do that they can be very rough

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Re: Taharas Hamishpacha Article Discussion For The Married Folk...
« Reply #239 on: January 09, 2017, 04:01:03 PM »
for the record thats not true, even in satmar they only look at the nails and maybe the back(as its a place u cant see yourself)
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