Author Topic: Poland, Ukraine, Belarus, Lithuania Kevarim itinerary. (Read 17777 times)

Deals Fan · « **Reply #40 on:** January 22, 2017, 07:19:15 PM »

Quote from: shimino1 on January 22, 2017, 05:03:47 PM

What are you doing for kosher food?

we are beinging and wherever we stay there is kosher so far krakow, warsaw, kiev,

ad120 · « **Reply #41 on:** January 22, 2017, 08:51:22 PM »

Quote from: Saulius on January 21, 2017, 04:22:48 PM

Navahrudak/Novardok, and Grodno (R' Shimon Shkop & R' Alexander Ziskind z"l ("Yesod Ve'shoresh Ha'avodah").

Where is R' Alexander Ziskind burried?

Deals Fan · « **Reply #42 on:** January 22, 2017, 08:54:59 PM »

Navahrudak/Novardok, and Grodno (R' Shimon Shkop & R' Alexander Ziskind z"l ("Yesod Ve'shoresh Ha'avodah").

Do you have exact locations?

Saulius · « **Reply #43 on:** January 23, 2017, 07:47:33 AM »

Quote from: ad120 on January 22, 2017, 08:51:22 PM

Where is R' Alexander Ziskind burried?

R' Alexander Ziskind zt'l & R' Shimon Shkop zt'l is buried in Grodno, in the Jewish cemetery of Zaniemanski Forshtat. (It's a bit tricky to find 53°40'42"N 23°48'7"E , look at google maps earth, it's in a forest below.) There were two other cemeteries in Grodno, but they were totally destroyed by the Soviets in 1958, ( One was leveled and dug up and replaced by a sports complex, and another was also destroyed by the Soviets).

I was there a few years ago, and the cemetery is in bad condition. There is an old couple that lives there and hangs their laundry on the tombstones... Rav Nachum'ka zt'l (the rebbe of Chofetz Chaim zt'l) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nachum_Kaplan is also buried in Grodna, but I assume in one of the cemeteries that were destroyed.

Saulius · « **Reply #44 on:** January 23, 2017, 08:15:44 AM »

Quote from: Deals Fan on January 22, 2017, 08:54:59 PM

Navahrudak/Novardok, and Grodno (R' Shimon Shkop & R' Alexander Ziskind z"l ("Yesod Ve'shoresh Ha'avodah").

Do you have exact locations?

Radin cemetery is at 54.0400° N 24.9681° E

Grodno cemetery is at 53°40'42"N 23°48'7"E -- but from your schedule, you wouldn't have time to go there or anywhere else other than Valozhyn which would be on the way from Minsk to Radun.

In Novardok there is a Jewish cemetery that's in bad condition. Majority of the stones were removed by the soviets to build nearby garages and pavements. There is some stones from the alter of Novardok's family.

Only thing to see in Novardok is the museum about the ghetto prisoners who escaped from their barracks by digging a 250-metre tunnel, joining the Bielski brothers/partisans in the forests). I went there with a friend, bringing sefer Medregas Ha'adam along, taking pictures by the Novardok town sign. Interesting to read is that Jared Kushner's grandparents are from the survivors, as he wrote in http://observer.com/2016/07/jared-kushner-the-donald-trump-i-know

Maybe I should organize a week tour of Belarus and Lithuania myself

Deals Fan · « **Reply #45 on:** January 23, 2017, 08:38:40 AM »

Quote from: Saulius on January 23, 2017, 08:15:44 AM

Radin cemetery is at 54.0400° N 24.9681° E

Grodno cemetery is at 53°40'42"N 23°48'7"E -- but from your schedule, you wouldn't have time to go there or anywhere else other than Valozhyn which would be on the way from Minsk to Radun.

In Novardok there is a Jewish cemetery that's in bad condition. Majority of the stones were removed by the soviets to build nearby garages and pavements. There is some stones from the alter of Novardok's family.

Only thing to see in Novardok is the museum about the ghetto prisoners who escaped from their barracks by digging a 250-metre tunnel, joining the Bielski brothers/partisans in the forests). I went there with a friend, bringing sefer Medregas Ha'adam along, taking pictures by the Novardok town sign. Interesting to read is that Jared Kushner's grandparents are from the survivors, as he wrote in http://observer.com/2016/07/jared-kushner-the-donald-trump-i-know

Maybe I should organize a week tour of Belarus and Lithuania myself

Thanks for the info!

Saulius · « **Reply #46 on:** January 23, 2017, 08:56:39 AM »

Also "Surviving History" - 30 minute film should be an interest to watch on Portraits from Vilna presents the life stories of ten individuals who survived the Holocaust in Lithuania where ninety-five percent of the 240,000-strong pre-war Jewish population was annihilated. If you would like to visit the Paneriai Memorial showcased in this film, the address is: Agrastu 17, Vilnius

Deals Fan · « **Reply #47 on:** June 25, 2017, 07:37:36 AM »

UPDATED ITINERARY
SUNDAY AUGUST 6
5:40 PM JFK TO KRAKOW VIA VIENNA (8HR 40 MIN) UNITED 70K POINTS SAVER AWARD BUSINESS
MONDAY AUGUST 7
8:20AM ARRIVE IN VIENNA (CALL WHEN WE LAND +421-948-554-442.) GO TO JEWISH CEMETERY- CHATAM SOFER (48°8'30.50"N, 17°5'29.50"E) DAVIDY
1:05PM VIE TO KRK (1 HR) UNITED 15K POINTS SAVER AWARD
2:05PM ARRIVE AT KRAKOW
DRIVE TO AUSCHWITZ (1 HOUR) (Oświęcimia 20, 32-603 Oświęcim) 3.5 HOUR GUIDED TOUR
DRIVE TO KRAKOW – SHUL OF REMA – (Szeroka 40, 30-001 Kraków) KEVARIM (RAMAS FAMILYBACH, TOSFOT Y”T)
SLEEP IN SHERATON GRAND KRAKOW
TUESDAY AUGUST 8
7:15AM DRIVE TO R’ ASHER MERUPSHITZ (Polna 19A, 39-100 Ropczyce, Poland)
DRIVE TO DAUGHTER OF NOAM ELIMELECH (49°50'00.1"N 21°36'35.2"E)
בית העלמין נמצא על מדרון, ליד רחוב השוק. Gołębiowskiego 11
יכולים לקבל את המפתחות בחנות הסמוכה
DRIVE TO RYMANOW – R MENDEL MIREMANOW –PARASHAT HAMAN - SOLLY
Mr. Bialas Tadeusz Ul. Kalwaria 11 38-480 Rymanow Tel:4813435-64.81M48608 832-983Woj-rym@wp.pl
DRIVE TO LEZAJSK (Ul. Targowa 6, 37-300 Lezajsk) NOAM ELIMELECH
DRIVE THROUGH LANCUT- Ropshitzer Ruv
3PM RZE TO WAW (55MIN) LOT AIR $24
4PM ARRIVE IN WARSAW
DRIVE TO JEWISH CEMETERY WARSAW (R CHAIM, NETZIV) (okopowa ul, 49-51 tel:+8382622)
DRIVE TO JEWISH CEMETERY OF GUR (SEFAT EMET, CHIDUSHEI HARIM) (Sajny ul. 2)
שומר – פליקס וולף 022 727 33 20p. Feliks Karpman tel. +48227273320
10:40PM WARSAW TO KIEV (1HR 30MIN) UKRAINE AIR $90
WEDNSDAY AUGUST 9
1AM ARRIVE IN KIEV
DRIVE TO UMAN – RABI NACHMAN (3 HOURS) (BELINSKI 1, UMAN)-JOEY- NETZ 5:43AM
DRIVE TO MEDZHIBOZH- BAAL SHEM TOV (3 HOURS) (Besht street in Medzhibozh)
DRIVE TO BERDICHEV-LEVI YITZCHAK OF BERDICHEV (2 HOURS)
DRIVE TO KBP AIRPORT
7:40PM KBP TO MINSK (1 HR) UKRAINE AIR $90
8PM ARRIVE AT MINSK AIRPORT
SLEEP IN MARIOTT OR HILTON
THURSDAY AUGUST 10
5AM DRIVE TO VOLOZHIN - R' Chaim Volozhiner (54°05'36.3"N 26°31'47.3"E)- the nearby magen david is the volozhiner yeshiva building. NETZ 5:39AM
DRIVE TO RADUN (1HR 45MIN) – CHOFETZ CHAIM, R’ NOFTALI TRUP (54.0400° N 24.9681° E)
DRIVE TO VILNIUS (1HR) – VINA HAGAON, CHAYE ADOM, R CHAIM OZER (Sudervės Kelias 28)
2:20 PM KUN TO JFK STOPOVER IN FRANKFURT UNITED 70K POINTS SAVER AWARD BUSINESS
ARRIVE IN JFK 7:55PM

ANY COMMENTS OR SUGGESTIONS ARE WELCOME.

travel agent · « **Reply #48 on:** June 25, 2017, 05:04:39 PM »

there is also another DAUGHTER OF NOAM ELIMELECH - Mirel, in Rimanow, outside the ohel of R` Mendel

eli1571 · « **Reply #49 on:** January 02, 2018, 07:17:35 PM »

Anyone have contact details for accommodations in mezibuzh, bardichev, and uman ?
Is there any other place that had accommodations?

moish · « **Reply #50 on:** January 02, 2018, 08:07:51 PM »

Quote from: eli1571 on January 02, 2018, 07:17:35 PM

Anyone have contact details for accommodations in mezibuzh, bardichev, and uman ?
Is there any other place that had accommodations?

http://www.zadikim.org/

chff · « **Reply #51 on:** March 11, 2018, 02:19:59 PM »

Anyone tried this app?

https://nesiyatova.com/

US · « **Reply #52 on:** March 11, 2018, 08:45:22 PM »

Quote from: chff on March 11, 2018, 02:19:59 PM

Anyone tried this app?

https://nesiyatova.com/

Yup, great app.

Although heard feedback from a few people went to Lizensk that the location points aren't accurate, would recommend using Google maps direct.

sillypainter · « **Reply #53 on:** April 25, 2018, 07:07:15 PM »

Any info about Belarus? Planning on flying into MSQ which does not require a visa and travel to Grodno to the Yesod V'sjoresh Avodah. Anybody hetr that has done it and I can ask questions please let me know.

BarryLincoln · « **Reply #54 on:** April 25, 2018, 07:17:08 PM »

Quote from: sillypainter on April 25, 2018, 07:07:15 PM

Any info about Belarus? Planning on flying into MSQ which does not require a visa and travel to Grodno to the Yesod V'sjoresh Avodah. Anybody hetr that has done it and I can ask questions please let me know.

Visited Belarus last summer. Hired a driver. Drove via Lithuania. Overnighted in Lida (near Radun), visited Volozhyn, Mir, Slonim and several other sites. Jewish Community Center in Pinsk catered food for us... PM for more info...

Suave · « **Reply #55 on:** April 26, 2018, 03:16:27 AM »

https://chat.whatsapp.com/invite/Cask1fvy0kM9rRQvuIGAcU

ad120 · « **Reply #56 on:** March 05, 2019, 02:40:34 AM »

Quote from: sillypainter on April 25, 2018, 07:07:15 PM

Any info about Belarus? Planning on flying into MSQ which does not require a visa and travel to Grodno to the Yesod V'sjoresh Avodah. Anybody hetr that has done it and I can ask questions please let me know.

Any info on the grave location of R’ Alexander Ziskind?
How accessible is it?

shwarmabob · « **Reply #57 on:** June 06, 2019, 02:49:05 PM »

Quote from: Saulius on January 21, 2017, 05:44:33 PM

Also note for Poland, US driver license holders are technically required to have an International Driver's Permit.

Is this still the case? Any experience getting stopped?

US · « **Reply #58 on:** June 12, 2019, 10:38:45 PM »

Quote from: shwarmabob on June 06, 2019, 02:49:05 PM

Is this still the case? Any experience getting stopped?

Yes.
Got a fine, others were towed.

ad120 · « **Reply #59 on:** June 13, 2019, 02:15:59 AM »

Quote from: shwarmabob on June 06, 2019, 02:49:05 PM

Is this still the case? Any experience getting stopped?

YMMV
I was denied by Hertz but Sixt gave me car. I also rented from https://car-rental.pl without an issue. The will deliver the car to your hotel if you need.