Keeping Up With The Kushners

[Welder]

I care that other frum jews will get judged by their behavior.

So far, the only ones who have been seen judging are other frum Jews.

[Cheesecake]

So you care about labels more than anything else?

Labels can be important.

I personally don't need to know about any alleged transgressions (some or all of which may be fake news) by this famimy, but yes, if someone labels themselves as Orthodox yet publicly violates halachah (I'm not saying they have), that creates a bigger chillul Hashem than a transgression of someone who doesn't claim to be.

[JTZ]

I care that other frum jews will get judged by their behavior.

You should be so lucky. 

[Cheesecake]

So far, the only ones who have been seen judging are other frum Jews.

There is a lot that we don't see.

[JTZ]

There is a lot that we don't see.

...and what would that be?

[Matovu]

So far, the only ones who have been seen judging are other frum Jews.

That's precisely the point.

[Welder]

That's precisely the point.

How so? You want them to stop labeling themselves as Orthodox so that other Frum Jews stop judging them?

[ExGingi]

So far, the only ones who have been seen judging are other frum Jews people obsessed with (meaningless) labels.

FTFY

[Matovu]

How so? You want them to stop labeling themselves as Orthodox so that other Frum Jews stop judging them?

Of course !!!

[Cheesecake]

...and what would that be?

People whose resolve to keep halachah is weakened by seeing Orthodox people violating it.
They aren't necessarily posting on DDF or anywhere.

[JTZ]

People whose resolve to keep halachah is weakened by seeing Orthodox people violating it.

Then those people have bigger problems. You can't shelter individuals their whole life. Your true dedication to your religion is only found out when it is tested.

[Cheesecake]

How so? You want them to stop labeling themselves as Orthodox so that other Frum Jews stop judging them?

Of course, keeping halachah properly is a better option... (again, general statement, I'm not up in the latest about the Kushners).

[Cheesecake]

Then those people have bigger problems. You can't shelter individuals their whole life. Your true dedication to your religion is only found out when it is tested.

That is true, but doesn't absolve anyone (myself very much included) of the responsibility to set a good example for others.

[efflpetzel]

I care that other frum jews will get judged by their behavior.

Gimmi a break, pure nonsense

[yitz1000]

+2

Let's make a poll

+2 but it doesn't seem like it's happening.

Unfollowing

[efflpetzel]

Then those people have bigger problems. You can't shelter individuals their whole life. Your true dedication to your religion is only found out when it is tested.

Sad that JTZ is the one that makes the most sense in this thread

[JTZ]

Unfollowing

+1
That's all anyone needs to do.

[JTZ]

Sad that JTZ is the one that makes the most sense in this thread

ROFL

[A3]

So who's buying the Marlins..

[JTZ]

So who's buying the Marlins..

Joshua?