Keeping Up With The Kushners

[ExGingi]

General consensus, if possible.

From Jews???

Ever heard of the expression "two Jews = three opinions"?

[ChaimMoskowitz]

Ever heard of the expression "two Jews = three opinions"?

Yes so how about the average of those opinions? 

[Dan]

+1 this is the problem.
 Many modox are so full of ahavat yisrael and are so perfect in their midda of Dan lekaf zecut in being non judgmental, that they will still warmly embrace the Ivanka brand of orthodoxy... They'll write a teshuva and creat a heter for anything.

This is evil.

Oh please. Nobody frum is warmly embracing it, but that doesn't mean we can't have A"Y and be DL"Z.

[Dan]

Would this be accurate?

To be frum means to be committed to the observance of Jewish religious law that often exceeds the bare requirements of Halakha, the collective body of Jewish religious laws.

The bare minimum is likely Shabbos, Mikvah, and Kosher.
If you keep those then most people will say you're frum.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

The bare minimum is likely Shabbos, Mikvah, and Kosher.
If you keep those then most people will say you're frum.

Thank you.

[Emkay]

General consensus, if possible.

Yes.

[Emkay]

The bare minimum is likely Shabbos, Mikvah, and Kosher.

Not necessarily arguing (yet) but what is this based on?

[aygart]

The bare minimum is likely Shabbos, Mikvah, and Kosher.
If you keep those then most people will say you're frum.

Well, they have at least 2 x's there and the third we will probably never know.

[saw50st8]

The bare minimum is likely Shabbos, Mikvah, and Kosher.
If you keep those then most people will say you're frum.

I think it's really shabbos and basic kosher (meaning people who eat vegetarian out) who fall into the "frum" category. I know people through mikva in there all the time but I don't think that's always true.

[Dan]

I don't see how you can possibly be considered frum without following taharas hamishpacha.

[chinagel]

The bare minimum is likely Shabbos, Mikvah, and Kosher.
If you keep those then most people will say you're frum.

tfillin

I don't see how you can possibly be considered frum without following taharas hamishpacha.

+1

[ChaimMoskowitz]

OK lets get back to Ivanka. 

[Dan]

tfillin

50% of frum Jews don't put on Tefilin

[chinagel]

50% of frum Jews don't put on Tefilin

No true Scotsman

[yoohoo]

Says they've been spotted in non kosher restaurants in DC.

[sillypainter]

I'm not defending the Kushners because of their recent trip to the middle east which was publicized,  but this whole thing is based on a NYPost article, they are a bunch of liars, so why even base on them?

Remember Menachem Stark landlord murder? That's who they are....

[saw50st8]

I don't see how you can possibly be considered frum without following taharas hamishpacha.

It depends on how you are defining frum. I've just discovered that a few people I know don't keep THM but still consider themselves frum.

[aygart]

It depends on how you are defining frum. I've just discovered that a few of my friends don't keep THM but still consider themselves frum.

Is that like gender identity where they self identify against all facts?

[sillypainter]

It depends on how you are defining frum. I've just discovered that a few people I know don't keep THM but still consider themselves frum.

Are they also drinking their "negel vaser" ?

[Dan]

It depends on how you are defining frum. I've just discovered that a few people I know don't keep THM but still consider themselves frum.

Considering the severity of the prohibition, I don't see how that's possible, but IANYLOR