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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #480 on: February 12, 2017, 09:42:28 AM »
I care that other frum jews will get judged by their behavior.
So far, the only ones who have been seen judging are other frum Jews.
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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #481 on: February 12, 2017, 09:42:33 AM »
So you care about labels more than anything else?
Labels can be important.

I personally don't need to know about any alleged transgressions (some or all of which may be fake news) by this famimy, but yes, if someone labels themselves as Orthodox yet publicly violates halachah (I'm not saying they have), that creates a bigger chillul Hashem than a transgression of someone who doesn't claim to be.

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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #482 on: February 12, 2017, 09:43:04 AM »
I care that other frum jews will get judged by their behavior.
You should be so lucky.  :P
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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #483 on: February 12, 2017, 09:43:19 AM »
So far, the only ones who have been seen judging are other frum Jews.
There is a lot that we don't see.

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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #484 on: February 12, 2017, 09:45:10 AM »
There is a lot that we don't see.
...and what would that be?
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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #485 on: February 12, 2017, 09:46:17 AM »
So far, the only ones who have been seen judging are other frum Jews.
That's precisely the point.

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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #486 on: February 12, 2017, 09:49:05 AM »
That's precisely the point.
How so? You want them to stop labeling themselves as Orthodox so that other Frum Jews stop judging them?
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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #487 on: February 12, 2017, 10:03:18 AM »
So far, the only ones who have been seen judging are other frum Jews people obsessed with (meaningless) labels.
FTFY
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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #488 on: February 12, 2017, 10:12:50 AM »
How so? You want them to stop labeling themselves as Orthodox so that other Frum Jews stop judging them?
Of course !!!
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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #489 on: February 12, 2017, 10:23:37 AM »
...and what would that be?
People whose resolve to keep halachah is weakened by seeing Orthodox people violating it.
They aren't necessarily posting on DDF or anywhere.

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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #490 on: February 12, 2017, 10:25:45 AM »
People whose resolve to keep halachah is weakened by seeing Orthodox people violating it.
Then those people have bigger problems. You can't shelter individuals their whole life. Your true dedication to your religion is only found out when it is tested.
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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #491 on: February 12, 2017, 10:26:41 AM »
How so? You want them to stop labeling themselves as Orthodox so that other Frum Jews stop judging them?
Of course, keeping halachah properly is a better option... (again, general statement, I'm not up in the latest about the Kushners).

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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #492 on: February 12, 2017, 10:29:15 AM »
Then those people have bigger problems. You can't shelter individuals their whole life. Your true dedication to your religion is only found out when it is tested.
That is true, but doesn't absolve anyone (myself very much included) of the responsibility to set a good example for others.

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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #493 on: February 12, 2017, 10:32:04 AM »
I care that other frum jews will get judged by their behavior.
Gimmi a break, pure nonsense

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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #494 on: February 12, 2017, 10:32:39 AM »
+2

Let's make a poll
+2 but it doesn't seem like it's happening.

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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #495 on: February 12, 2017, 10:32:57 AM »
Then those people have bigger problems. You can't shelter individuals their whole life. Your true dedication to your religion is only found out when it is tested.
Sad that JTZ is the one that makes the most sense in this thread

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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #496 on: February 12, 2017, 10:33:39 AM »
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That's all anyone needs to do.
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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #497 on: February 12, 2017, 10:34:30 AM »
Sad that JTZ is the one that makes the most sense in this thread
ROFL
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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #498 on: February 12, 2017, 10:45:24 AM »
So who's buying the Marlins..

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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #499 on: February 12, 2017, 10:49:17 AM »
So who's buying the Marlins..
Joshua?
"LESS IS MORE" It is the cumulative effect that kills deals!!! How many times do I have to say this?  >:(