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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #660 on: May 26, 2017, 01:22:24 PM »
The big discussion hear is that they claim they are orthodox, if not that why aren't people discussing Adam Sandler or Mike Bloomberg ect: but where did they say that they are orthodox?

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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #661 on: May 26, 2017, 01:24:51 PM »
Idi@T. It would surely make great JS popcorn material but it's ridiculous to publish this kind of stuff.
The more they proclaim to the world that they are orthodox and the more they post things that are against the very basis of orthodoxy the more the OU article about not being our business is proven wrong.

I had many non-religious friends on Facebook posting how even in orthodox Judaism heterim have a price, and how it's the same as any other religion where the rich can do what they like... I always felt frumkeit was special that even the rich don't get to go against torah, and here I am reading on FB how the most public orthodox couple are doing just the opposite.
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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #662 on: May 26, 2017, 01:36:10 PM »
I recently read the Joe Liberman specifically referred to  himself as "observant" not "Orthodox" in order to avoid this type of thing.

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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #663 on: May 26, 2017, 01:54:39 PM »
I recently read the Joe Liberman specifically referred to  himself as "observant" not "Orthodox" in order to avoid this type of thing.
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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #664 on: May 26, 2017, 02:10:16 PM »
The more they proclaim to the world that they are orthodox and the more they post things that are against the very basis of orthodoxy the more the OU article about not being our business is proven wrong.

I had many non-religious friends on Facebook posting how even in orthodox Judaism heterim have a price, and how it's the same as any other religion where the rich can do what they like... I always felt frumkeit was special that even the rich don't get to go against torah, and here I am reading on FB how the most public orthodox couple are doing just the opposite.
Haven't got such comments at my hedge fund. We have plenty of frum (very rich) folks and the population understands that for whatever reason Jared+Ivanka are the exception not the rule.

In either case, the title is x100 more provocative than the simple point you want him to convey. Don't be fooled by their supposed claim to be orthodox.

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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #665 on: May 26, 2017, 02:14:35 PM »
Haven't got such comments at my hedge fund. We have plenty of frum (very rich) folks and the population understands that for whatever reason Jared+Ivanka are the exception not the rule.

In either case, the title is x100 more provocative than the simple point you want him to convey. Don't be fooled by their supposed claim to be orthodox.

Not worth getting under JK's skin. Next time Dan pm's him to have DoT reinstate Emirates tickets, he may not be so helpful 8).
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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #666 on: May 26, 2017, 02:21:24 PM »
Would you feel different if the people you know did feel as I explained?
I already agreed to that.

Do you agree that he could have easily made his point in a rational manner and left the "chillul-hashem/embarrassment" rhetoric for Barclays Center, June 11th?

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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #667 on: May 26, 2017, 02:22:45 PM »
I already agreed to that.

Do you agree that he could have easily made his point in a rational manner and left the "chillul-hashem/embarrassment" rhetoric for Barclays Center, June 11th?
I didn't read the article that closely, but obviously he's writing to be sensational.
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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #668 on: May 26, 2017, 02:28:25 PM »
Comment from the matzav article:
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You made the mistake that many other people made. I’ve never seen an interview where Jared or Ivanka have claimed to be Shomer Torah Umitzvos.
She did once say that she likes Shabbos because of the gashmiyus aspects (peace and quiet, family time etc)
She does light Menorah (although she does it within her house, not by the window and uses candles)
He is never seen in public wearing a yarmulkah. Even during the Israel trip, although he did have one by the kosel.
Basically, no one actually thinks they are Orthodox, besides for Orthodox Jews.
Sadly they are like most American Jews (actually the vast majority) who have little connection to Judaism.
They do keep a handful of mitzvos maybe, but no one thinks they are Frum.
As far as her Geirus is concerned, that’s a shailoh for a Rav.
But no one should think that these are standard Frum family who are looking to buy a house in the middle of Flatbush.
Sadly, far from it. 

I kinda agree. I think the "frum velt" were the ones that got all excited and advertised that אחות לנו בבית המלך, and are now feeling duped

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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #669 on: May 26, 2017, 02:35:48 PM »
Comment from the matzav article:
I kinda agree. I think the "frum velt" were the ones that got all excited and advertised that אחות לנו בבית המלך, and are now feeling duped
The problem is the very public news articles about their special dispensations and some comedians disguised as reporters who call Trump a zeidy.
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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #670 on: May 26, 2017, 02:45:42 PM »
I recently read the Joe Liberman specifically referred to  himself as "observant" not "Orthodox" in order to avoid this type of thing.
I think Joe has a son in law who is really frum, IIRC 15-20 years ago I was with him in a hotel and is son in law was with a Gemura.

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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #671 on: May 26, 2017, 03:13:49 PM »
The problem is the very public news articles about their special dispensations and some comedians disguised as reporters who call Trump a zeidy.
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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #672 on: May 28, 2017, 01:44:46 AM »
Let’s dispense with the notion that Barack Obama doesn’t know what he’s doing. He knows exactly what he’s doing.
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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #673 on: May 28, 2017, 05:29:51 PM »
It seems the least of Jared's problems is keeping Kosher.  :)
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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #674 on: May 28, 2017, 06:14:41 PM »
Comment from the matzav article:


When did looking to buy a house in the middle of Flatbush become a yardstick for how Orthodox one is?  I must be Reform.


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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #678 on: May 30, 2017, 02:40:14 PM »
Fine. I gave you a like.
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