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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #760 on: June 14, 2017, 11:58:41 PM »
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Or as the Lubavitch version goes - ישראל אף על פי שלא חטא ישראל הוא.
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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #761 on: June 15, 2017, 12:05:16 AM »
Or as the Lubavitch version goes - ישראל אף על פי שלא חטא ישראל הוא.
speaking of chassidim changing things from the gemara.....

I was specifically coming off your typo.
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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #762 on: June 15, 2017, 12:10:43 AM »
speaking of chassidim changing things from the gemara.....

I was specifically coming off your typo.
LOL.

Didn't the current discussion start with a question about who Lubavitchers will offer to put on tefillin with?

BTW, you might be surprised at the number of Yeshivish bochurim who will ask to make a brocho on Lulav and Esrog from a Lubavitcher who is going around offering it to people.

ETA: how is this changing the Gemorah?  Does the Gemorah imply that an ישראל who hasn't sinned is not a ישראל and Ahavas Yisroel should not be applied to him or her?
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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #763 on: June 15, 2017, 12:15:31 AM »
BTW, you might be surprised at the number of Yeshivish bochurim who will ask to make a brocho on Lulav and Esrog from a Lubavitcher who is going around offering it to people.

But they won't do the same when a Chabadsker has tefillin on offer.

Is it because they are more embarrassed about tefillin than about lulav, or because they wouldn't trust the kashrus of chabadsker tefillin? :D
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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #764 on: June 15, 2017, 12:27:04 AM »
But they won't do the same when a Chabadsker has tefillin on offer.

Is it because they are more embarrassed about tefillin than about lulav, or because they wouldn't trust the kashrus of chabadsker tefillin? :D
I guarantee you that such a thought doesn't cross their minds. They never heard of בהובלנביב״ח and just don't have that level of awareness.
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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #765 on: June 15, 2017, 02:55:09 AM »
But they won't do the same when a Chabadsker has tefillin on offer.

Is it because they are more embarrassed about tefillin than about lulav, or because they wouldn't trust the kashrus of chabadsker tefillin? :D
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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #766 on: June 15, 2017, 08:28:23 AM »
But they won't do the same when a Chabadsker has tefillin on offer.

Is it because they are more embarrassed about tefillin than about lulav, or because they wouldn't trust the kashrus of chabadsker tefillin? :D
It is most likely because it is customary in many yeshivos for people to be yotzei with esrogim of many different yuchsin to help ensure that at least one is not murkav. They would therefore also want to take the one which was brought over on a cloud to Moshe in the midbar grown on a piece of land which did not yet exist.
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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #767 on: June 15, 2017, 08:29:03 AM »
I guarantee you that such a thought doesn't cross their minds. They never heard of בהובלנביב״ח and just don't have that level of awareness.
I never heard of that either. WHat is that?
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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #768 on: June 15, 2017, 08:31:40 AM »
It is most likely because it is customary in many yeshivos for people to be yotzei with esrogim of many different yuchsin to help ensure that at least one is not murkav. They would therefore also want to take the one which was brought over on a cloud to Moshe in the midbar grown on a piece of land which did not yet exist.
You must be a Barditchever einikel.
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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #769 on: June 15, 2017, 08:35:24 AM »
You must be a Barditchever einikel.
I am wondering how many people will get all aspects of what I am referring to.
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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #770 on: June 15, 2017, 09:19:31 AM »
I am wondering how many people will get all aspects of what I am referring to.
Eh.... Now you ain't talking like a Barditchever... more like a Litvak. :)
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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #771 on: June 15, 2017, 09:20:27 AM »
Eh.... Now you ain't talking like a Barditchever... more like a Litvak. :)
Well I am of mixed background.
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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #772 on: June 15, 2017, 09:24:40 AM »
Well I am of mixed background.
Same here. :) (which gives the advantage of getting various nuances, though Jewish backgrounds are so diverse, that there will always be something that could be missed).
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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #773 on: June 15, 2017, 09:25:47 AM »
Same here. :)
Except that you abandoned those to focus almost exclusively on a different one
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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #774 on: June 15, 2017, 09:35:43 AM »
I am wondering how many people will get all aspects of what I am referring to.
The yichus of the Yanever?

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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #775 on: June 15, 2017, 09:36:53 AM »
The yichus of the Yanever?
That was the easy part. I wrote all aspects for a reason.
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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #776 on: June 15, 2017, 09:41:46 AM »
That was the easy part. I wrote all aspects for a reason.

That was the part I was most unsure about. I'm pretty sure I got the rest  ;D

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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #777 on: June 15, 2017, 09:43:13 AM »
That was the part I was most unsure about. I'm pretty sure I got the rest  ;D
I meant within that part. That sentence was written with many fine points.
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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #778 on: June 15, 2017, 09:51:30 AM »
I meant within that part. That sentence was written with many fine points.

I got this:
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grown on a piece of land which did not yet exist.

I never heard this:

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brought over on a cloud to Moshe in the midbar

Probably because the former is a gemara and the latter is not.

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Re: Keeping Up With The Kushners
« Reply #779 on: June 15, 2017, 09:55:36 AM »
I got this:
I never heard this:

Probably because the former is a gemara and the latter is not.
Without the first part you don't fully understand the import of the second, but you are on the right track. Leave it to DDF to have a discussion about the Kushners become one about Yiddish spelling and Yanever esrogim.
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