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Re: Abortion = Murder?
« Reply #105 on: January 25, 2017, 12:31:51 PM »
so you feel that Eichmann should have been exonerated?
There is a very big difference between the way people were treated in the Holocaust and simply killing in war. Had the victims of the Holocaust only been killed, it would have been doing them a favor compared to what they got.
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Re: Abortion = Murder?
« Reply #106 on: January 25, 2017, 12:34:40 PM »
There is a very big difference between the way people were treated in the Holocaust and simply killing in war. Had the victims of the Holocaust only been killed, it would have been doing them a favor compared to what they got.
So it is a question of where you draw the line. Very subjective
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Re: Abortion = Murder?
« Reply #107 on: January 25, 2017, 12:37:55 PM »
So it is a question of where you draw the line. Very subjective
I don't disagree that most of this discussion varries based on ones personal interpretation of several differen factors such as life, murder, human being etc. I'd have to say that most times an army is instructed to kill by it leader, it is not classified as murder. Obviously this isn't every case, but lets be real, the Holocaust was nowhere near the typical exemplary case
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Re: Abortion = Murder?
« Reply #108 on: January 25, 2017, 12:41:46 PM »
I don't disagree that most of this discussion varries based on ones personal interpretation of several differen factors such as life, murder, human being etc. I'd have to say that most times an army is instructed to kill by it leader, it is not classified as murder. Obviously this isn't every case, but lets be real, the Holocaust was nowhere near the typical exemplary case

The difference is not that they did it as an army under orders but that it happened in the regular course of a war. The would not apply to the way ExGingi is applying it.

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Re: Abortion = Murder?
« Reply #109 on: January 25, 2017, 12:59:15 PM »

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Re: Abortion = Murder?
« Reply #110 on: January 25, 2017, 12:59:42 PM »
so you feel that Eichmann should have been exonerated?
No.
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Re: Abortion = Murder?
« Reply #111 on: January 25, 2017, 04:25:05 PM »
The difference is not that they did it as an army under orders but that it happened in the regular course of a war. The would not apply to the way ExGingi is applying it.

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Re: Abortion = Murder?
« Reply #112 on: January 25, 2017, 04:31:38 PM »
Who do you think you are fooling? You think you are going to pull a quick one on your Creator? Good luck with that.
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Re: Abortion = Murder?
« Reply #113 on: January 25, 2017, 04:37:50 PM »
Don't leave now. What's the problem?
Sorry
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Re: Abortion = Murder?
« Reply #114 on: January 25, 2017, 04:44:51 PM »
כופרים
Why would someone believe in a God they feel the need to apologize for?
Who is apologizing for G-d?
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Re: Abortion = Murder?
« Reply #115 on: January 25, 2017, 04:45:37 PM »
Sorry
So again you refuse to answer questions?  :P
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Re: Abortion = Murder?
« Reply #116 on: January 25, 2017, 04:48:25 PM »
So again you refuse to answer questions? 
I answered more questions than you in this thread.
Besides many of my questions are answers
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Re: Abortion = Murder?
« Reply #117 on: January 25, 2017, 04:50:38 PM »
I answered more questions than you in this thread.
Besides many of my questions are answers
...but I said all I was going to do is ask questions.  ;)
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Re: Abortion = Murder?
« Reply #118 on: January 26, 2017, 09:31:34 AM »
Ask your Local ORTHODOX Rabbi! (Nothing added to the word ORTHODOX.) Please don't take this thread and turn it into antisemitism!

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Re: Abortion = Murder?
« Reply #119 on: January 26, 2017, 09:32:42 AM »
...but I said all I was going to do is ask questions.  ;)
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