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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #105 on: January 29, 2017, 01:34:20 PM »
Actually it was a question?  :)
I did not look at the EO at all. It doesn't affect certain countries?
Actually looking at the EO might be a good place for you to start. According to those who have (quoted up thread), it does not mention specific countries but rather increases the restrictions placed by the Obama administration on countries likely to produce terror threats which is where the list came from. Next you might say that the Obama administration was careful to only include countries that Trump hasn't done business with, who knows?  :P
In any event though, while you may be able to come up with other countries that pose an existing terror threat from large segment of their citizenry, you do have to admit that the countries on this list kind of make up an all-star team in that category, no?

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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #106 on: January 29, 2017, 01:36:51 PM »
We are making progress.  :)
Please clarify a bit for me though, are you really completely discounting any and all terror threat from Muslim refugees given what has taken place in Europe, or just saying that you think this is an overreaction to that threat, because theres a big difference....

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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #107 on: January 29, 2017, 01:40:14 PM »
Actually looking at the EO might be a good place for you to start. According to those who have (quoted up thread), it does not mention specific countries but rather increases the restrictions placed by the Obama administration on countries likely to produce terror threats which is where the list came from. Next you might say that the Obama administration was careful to only include countries that Trump hasn't done business with, who knows? 
In any event though, while you may be able to come up with other countries that pose an existing terror threat from large segment of their citizenry, you do have to admit that the countries on this list kind of make up an all-star team in that category, no?

Please clarify a bit for me though, are you really completely discounting any and all terror threat from Muslim refugees given what has taken place in Europe, or just saying that you think this is an overreaction to that threat, because theres a big difference....
But CNN says.....
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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #108 on: January 29, 2017, 01:40:18 PM »
Muslims in the middle east have been executed in large numbers too. The world seems intent on allowing that horror to continue.

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The "world" or at least the European liberal elites, seems intent on trying to export that horror to their own shores, something that masses of their own people seem unhappy with as evidenced by recent and predicted upcoming election results and the BREXIT vote. Just another symptom of close-minded liberal political-correctness run amok...... It only seems sensible for our president to try and protect our people from that eventuality....

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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #109 on: January 29, 2017, 01:41:03 PM »
But CNN says.....
:) the very definition of fake news and alternate facts....  ;)

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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #110 on: January 29, 2017, 01:44:56 PM »


The "world" or at least the European liberal elites, seems intent on trying to export that horror to their own shores, something that masses of their own people seem unhappy with as evidenced by recent and predicted upcoming election results and the BREXIT vote. Just another symptom of close-minded liberal political-correctness run amok...... It only seems sensible for our president to try and protect our people from that eventuality....

A) It's called importing, not exporting.

B) Mr. Trump seemed to have written and posted something on one of his social media accounts regarding the need to stop the horror in the Middle East. Do you agree or disagree with this sentiment?
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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #111 on: January 29, 2017, 01:49:09 PM »


B) Mr. Trump seemed to have written and posted something on one of his social media accounts regarding the need to stop the horror in the Middle East. Do you agree or disagree with this sentiment?
I dont think any decent human being would disagree with that sentiment, as always its a question of tactics....
But correct me if I'm wrong as I dont follow Mr. Trump on Twitter myself, but wasn't that in the context of allowing more Christian refugees from the Middle East to enter America? Would you agree or disagree with that sentiment?

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« Reply #112 on: January 29, 2017, 01:52:52 PM »
+1. sounds ridiculous, almost random coming from a taxi service company.
Not really. They have to satiate their employees, who many (maybe even most) of them are immigrants. They probably couldn't care less but don't want their employees to strike like the cabbies did in nyc.
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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #113 on: January 29, 2017, 01:52:54 PM »
I dont think any decent human being would disagree with that sentiment, as always its a question of tactics....
But correct me if I'm wrong as I dont follow Mr. Trump on Twitter myself, but wasn't that in the context of allowing more Christian refugees from the Middle East to enter America? Would you agree or disagree with that sentiment?
So we should allow people from troubled countries in the middle east in if their lives are endangered, or we should keep our borders closed to protect our best interests? I'm getting confused.
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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #114 on: January 29, 2017, 01:56:56 PM »
So we should allow people from troubled countries in the middle east in if their lives are endangered, or we should keep our borders closed to protect our best interests? I'm getting confused.
Actually its pretty straightforward so Ill try to make it really simple for you. We should absolutely allow people from troubled countries in the Middle East into our great country if their lives are endangered, however the primary interest of any country needs to be keeping their citizens safe and secure, so in the event that those refugees might endanger the country in some way, it's America first until we can determine a way to balance both. And if that means a temporary ban on everyone till we can figure it out, so be it.....

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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #115 on: January 29, 2017, 01:58:49 PM »
Actually its pretty straightforward so Ill try to make it really simple for you. We should absolutely allow people from troubled countries in the Middle East into our great country if their lives are endangered, however the primary interest of any country needs to be keeping their citizens safe and secure, so in the event that those refugees might endanger the country in some way, it's America first until we can determine a way to balance both. And if that means a temporary ban on everyone till we can figure it out, so be it.....
In other words, you disagree with this guy. Don't blame you.
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Christians in the Middle-East have been executed in large numbers. We cannot allow this horror to continue!
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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #116 on: January 29, 2017, 02:04:11 PM »
In other words, you disagree with this guy. Don't blame you.
Now you're confusing me.... ;D
As I thought was clear, the sentiment everyone agrees with, and letting in Christian refugees does not seem to present any security risks so why not? It's only the Muslim ones who we need to worry about seeing as too many of their compatriots have a predilection for blowing themselves and other people up....

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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #117 on: January 29, 2017, 02:04:48 PM »
Please clarify a bit for me though, are you really completely discounting any and all terror threat from Muslim refugees given what has taken place in Europe, or just saying that you think this is an overreaction to that threat, because theres a big difference....
More than happy to clarify. Progress in terms that he actually answered a question. Has nothing to do with the question.
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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #118 on: January 29, 2017, 02:07:07 PM »
But CNN says.....
...what? I was getting to many laughs from FOX to switch channels.
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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #119 on: January 29, 2017, 02:07:58 PM »
More than happy to clarify. Progress in terms that he actually answered a question. Has nothing to do with the question.
Maybe I missed it but where did you answer my question?