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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #135 on: January 29, 2017, 03:01:26 PM »
"LESS IS MORE" It is the cumulative effect that kills deals!!! How many times do I have to say this?  >:(

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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #136 on: January 29, 2017, 03:17:41 PM »
https://www.cato.org/blog/five-reasons-congress-should-repeal-trumps-immigrant-refugee-ban
Wow, I always knew you could skew numbers to say whatever you want, but this is something else. They are firstly going back to 1975, when of course terrorism was a major concern, and secondly including all tourists and refugees in their calculations; as if a tourist from Canada (!) or a refugee from Tibet (!!) are just as likely to commit a terrorist act, which obviously leads to those numbers. 'Nuff said.....

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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #137 on: January 29, 2017, 03:27:32 PM »
'Nuff said.....
Refugee's have three kills in how many years? That's a few days in Chicago. Maybe would should ban all from Chicago?
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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #138 on: January 29, 2017, 03:35:25 PM »
Refugee's have three kills in how many years? That's a few days in Chicago. Maybe would should ban all from Chicago?
honestly if there was a clearly identifiable group of people from chicago from whom the murderers were disproportionately coming from who were not already citizens which precludes our ability to get rid of them, Id be all for it.... :)

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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #139 on: January 29, 2017, 03:39:03 PM »
Refugee's have three kills in how many years? That's a few days in Chicago. Maybe would should ban all from Chicago?
but the larger point is that you can get lost in statistics and make numbers say almost anything, I can't imagine that anyone who has been paying attention to events all over the world for the past few years could not reasonably conclude that there is clear and present danger to letting any Muslim who wants to come into your country in without a rigorous vetting process....

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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #140 on: January 29, 2017, 04:01:33 PM »
honestly if there was a clearly identifiable group of people from chicago from whom the murderers were disproportionately coming from who were not already citizens which precludes our ability to get rid of them, Id be all for it.... :)
Why don't you spell this out instead of weakly hiding this disgusting comment behind an emoji?
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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #142 on: January 29, 2017, 04:05:22 PM »
The problem is that the text and the implementation are worlds apart.
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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #143 on: January 29, 2017, 04:31:37 PM »
Why don't you spell this out instead of weakly hiding this disgusting comment behind an emoji?
Not sure what you mean or what exactly you think I mean, do you know what I was responding to and what our conversation is about?

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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #144 on: January 29, 2017, 04:46:45 PM »
Refugee's have three kills in how many years? That's a few days in Chicago. Maybe would should ban all from Chicago?
You are proving trumps point now. We have enough of our own problems and we're not looking for more.

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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #145 on: January 29, 2017, 04:54:45 PM »
If you really believe that there is no possible threat to the USA whatsoever in letting in any and all Muslim refugees given what has taken place in Europe?

This is a straw man- no one is suggesting letting in any and all Muslim refugees. This is the current process for a refugee: https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blog/2015/11/20/infographic-screening-process-refugee-entry-united-states


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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #147 on: January 29, 2017, 05:05:31 PM »
Is Bibi for this ban?
Well, consider the fact that the countries on that list don't let Bibi, his citizens, or anyone with Israeli stamps in their passports across their borders (aside from Somalia - highly restricted visa)

I can see why he would approve...

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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #148 on: January 29, 2017, 05:29:57 PM »
Well, consider the fact that the countries on that list don't let Bibi, his citizens, or anyone with Israeli stamps in their passports across their borders (aside from Somalia - highly restricted visa)

I can see why he would approve...
Aha, so it is a retaliation thing? Or is it a racism thing comparible to those countries, and not a security measure?

Unless there is no connection or comparison.
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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #149 on: January 29, 2017, 06:26:53 PM »
Aha, so it is a retaliation thing? Or is it a racism thing comparible to those countries, and not a security measure?

Unless there is no connection or comparison.
Trump is doing it as retaliation for them against Israel?
Just because things turned out a certain way doesn't mean you were right.