Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US

[aygart]

CNN is saying the ban applies even on permanent residents of the US (green card holders) that's surprising

+1 this does seem overboard.

[KidOOO]

Not sure ifi agree with thisBut this is clear
And dual citizens. I have a friend here in yyz who is a Canadian citizen but born in Iran. He's not allowed to do to the States. Crazy

Source?

(That it applies to dual citizens)

Edit: found it in WSJ, how would that work though, when a Canadian enters the US and presents his Canadian passport, how would they know he has another one?

[yuneeq]

Source?

(That it applies to dual citizens)

Edit: found it in WSJ, how would that work though, when a Canadian enters the US and presents his Canadian passport, how would they know he has another one?

https://www.theatlantic.com/please-support-us/?next=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theatlantic.com%2Fnews%2Farchive%2F2017%2F01%2Ftrump-immigration-order-muslims%2F514844%2F#seen
His friend will be allowed to enter because the ban only applies to Muslims and not religious minorities.
However the ban does apply to Muslims with dual citizenship.

[JTZ]

Why aren't Saudis being banned?

the same reason they aren't banned from Qatar Jordan Egypt and other Muslim countries which are stale and not terrorist states. Even Lebanon isn't included.

9/11 hijackers were almost all Saudis.

Lets not bring facts into this discussion.

[yuneeq]

This isn't why Saudis aren't on the list 
Hint: it follows the Obama administrations classification of countries of "concern". 

https://sethfrantzman.com/2017/01/28/obamas-administration-made-the-muslim-ban-possible-and-the-media-wont-tell-you/

[KidOOO]

+1 this does seem overboard.

They seems to have partially walked back the green card ban, it is now being reported green card holders can get a waiver

The dual citizenship thing seems like mis-information to me. A Canadian citizen, for example, can enter the US with his Canadian passport with no need to reference his other passport AFAIK

[aygart]

Lets not bring facts into this discussion.

They have plenty of issues among their citizenry, but to compare them to the seven included is what would be ignoring facts.

[yuneeq]

They seems to have partially walked back the green card ban, it is now being reported green card holders can get a waiver

The dual citizenship thing seems like mis-information to me. A Canadian citizen, for example, can enter the US with his Canadian passport with no need to reference his other passport AFAIK

I provided a link above proving that you're wrong.
If you have dual citizenship, Canada and Sudan, you won't be allowed entry to the US if you're Muslim.

[KidOOO]

I provided a link above proving that you're wrong.
If you have dual citizenship, Canada and Sudan, you won't be allowed entry to the US if you're Muslim.

If a ban cannot be enforced it's not much of a ban. How exactly would they know if someone is Muslim? Or if he is even a national of a 2nd Country for that purpose?

[yuneeq]

If a ban cannot be enforced it's not much of a ban. How exactly would they know if someone is Muslim? Or if he is even a national of a 2nd Country for that purpose?

1. Prove that you're not a Muslim
2. Your passport would probably state your birthplace

[KidOOO]

How would one go about proving he is a Muslim or not ?

Your second point I agree with, that would indicate the person is probably a national of that country as well

[Menachem613]

How would one go about proving he is a Muslim or not ?

Your second point I agree with, that would indicate the person is probably a national of that country as well

Ask the person to draw a pic of Muhammad.

[sky121]

I'm curious. Are most people here 100% for or against this?

[yuds70]

I'm curious. Are most people here 100% for or against this?

This calls for a poll

[cholent]

I'm curious. Are most people here 100% for or against this?

Does it have to be 100% one way or another?