Author Topic: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US (Read 30584 times)

lubaby · « **on:** January 28, 2017, 06:28:11 PM »

theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/28/trump-immigration-ban-syria-muslims-reaction-lawsuits

george · « **Reply #1 on:** January 28, 2017, 06:40:44 PM »

The ban is not only on Muslims, it is on nationals of 7 nations that are majority Muslim. So the thousands of Jews that are in Iran currently cannot come to the U.S.

KidOOO · « **Reply #2 on:** January 28, 2017, 07:08:25 PM »

CNN is saying the ban applies even on permanent residents of the US (green card holders) that's surprising

grodnoking · « **Reply #3 on:** January 28, 2017, 07:13:53 PM »

Quote from: george on January 28, 2017, 06:40:44 PM

The ban is not only on Muslims, it is on nationals of 7 nations that are majority Muslim. So the thousands of Jews that are in Iran currently cannot come to the U.S.

Prioritizes refugee claims on the basis of religious persecution, so long as the applicant belongs to a religion that is a minority in their country of origin.

ilherman · « **Reply #4 on:** January 28, 2017, 07:54:01 PM »

1. This should be moved to JS.

2. Kudos to Trump for taking the courage to keep us safe.

3. Shame on the world for retaliating now and not saying anything about the fact that 16 countries deny entry to Israeli citizens.

htg123 · « **Reply #5 on:** January 28, 2017, 08:00:14 PM »

Even though parts of this are good, The way it's being implemented is silly. It shouldn't have affected passengers in transit, and especially not to green card holders.

Menachem613 · « **Reply #6 on:** January 28, 2017, 08:07:15 PM »

Why aren't Saudis being banned?

JTZ · « **Reply #7 on:** January 28, 2017, 08:13:30 PM »

Quote from: Menachem613 on January 28, 2017, 08:07:15 PM

Why aren't Saudis being banned?

Maybe because he has a business interest there?

Alexsei · « **Reply #8 on:** January 28, 2017, 08:43:17 PM »

Quote from: Menachem613 on January 28, 2017, 08:07:15 PM

Why aren't Saudis being banned?

Freedom Tower

Alexsei · « **Reply #9 on:** January 28, 2017, 08:45:51 PM »

Aeroplan waiving change fees for banned travelers

http://dcta.boardingarea.com/2017/01/aeroplan-waiving-change-fees-for-banned-travellers/

Ergel · « **Reply #10 on:** January 28, 2017, 08:45:59 PM »

Quote from: htg123 on January 28, 2017, 08:00:14 PM

Even though parts of this are good,

Not sure ifi agree with this

Quote

The way it's being implemented is silly. It shouldn't have affected passengers in transit, and especially not to green card holders.

But this is clear
And dual citizens. I have a friend here in yyz who is a Canadian citizen but born in Iran. He's not allowed to do to the States. Crazy

aygart · « **Reply #11 on:** January 28, 2017, 08:46:25 PM »

Quote from: Menachem613 on January 28, 2017, 08:07:15 PM

Why aren't Saudis being banned?

the same reason they aren't banned from Qatar Jordan Egypt and other Muslim countries which are stale and not terrorist states. Even Lebanon isn't included.

yuneeq · « **Reply #12 on:** January 28, 2017, 08:49:09 PM »

Quote from: Ergel on January 28, 2017, 08:45:59 PM

Not sure ifi agree with thisBut this is clear
And dual citizens. I have a friend here in yyz who is a Canadian citizen but born in Iran. He's not allowed to do to the States. Crazy

I thought that religious minorities will still be allowed to enter the US?
In that case your friend should be fine.

Menachem613 · « **Reply #13 on:** January 28, 2017, 08:50:00 PM »

9/11 hijackers were almost all Saudis.

chff · « **Reply #14 on:** January 28, 2017, 08:50:17 PM »

States vs Trump

aygart · « **Reply #15 on:** January 28, 2017, 09:01:54 PM »

Quote from: KidOOO on January 28, 2017, 07:08:25 PM

CNN is saying the ban applies even on permanent residents of the US (green card holders) that's surprising

+1 this does seem overboard.

KidOOO · « **Reply #16 on:** January 28, 2017, 09:09:38 PM »

Quote from: Ergel on January 28, 2017, 08:45:59 PM

Not sure ifi agree with thisBut this is clear
And dual citizens. I have a friend here in yyz who is a Canadian citizen but born in Iran. He's not allowed to do to the States. Crazy

Source?

(That it applies to dual citizens)

Edit: found it in WSJ, how would that work though, when a Canadian enters the US and presents his Canadian passport, how would they know he has another one?

yuneeq · « **Reply #17 on:** January 28, 2017, 09:44:41 PM »

Quote from: KidOOO on January 28, 2017, 09:09:38 PM

Source?

(That it applies to dual citizens)

Edit: found it in WSJ, how would that work though, when a Canadian enters the US and presents his Canadian passport, how would they know he has another one?

https://www.theatlantic.com/please-support-us/?next=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theatlantic.com%2Fnews%2Farchive%2F2017%2F01%2Ftrump-immigration-order-muslims%2F514844%2F#seen
His friend will be allowed to enter because the ban only applies to Muslims and not religious minorities.
However the ban does apply to Muslims with dual citizenship.

JTZ · « **Reply #18 on:** January 28, 2017, 10:03:06 PM »

Quote from: Menachem613 on January 28, 2017, 08:07:15 PM

Why aren't Saudis being banned?

Quote from: aygart on January 28, 2017, 08:46:25 PM

the same reason they aren't banned from Qatar Jordan Egypt and other Muslim countries which are stale and not terrorist states. Even Lebanon isn't included.

Quote from: Menachem613 on January 28, 2017, 08:50:00 PM

9/11 hijackers were almost all Saudis.

Lets not bring facts into this discussion.

yuneeq · « **Reply #19 on:** January 28, 2017, 10:13:00 PM »

This isn't why Saudis aren't on the list
Hint: it follows the Obama administrations classification of countries of "concern".

https://sethfrantzman.com/2017/01/28/obamas-administration-made-the-muslim-ban-possible-and-the-media-wont-tell-you/