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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #180 on: January 30, 2017, 06:55:29 AM »
#MAG (make America greater)
That I like!!!
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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #181 on: January 30, 2017, 06:59:35 AM »
For all those that say this is not directed at Muslims or there religion can you explain this to me? Why is there an exemption for minority religions? 
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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #183 on: January 30, 2017, 07:50:17 AM »
For all those that say this is not directed at Muslims or there religion can you explain this to me? Why is there an exemption for minority religions?
The theory would be in countries where there is religious persecution, you give priority to minority religions so are getting persecuted. While in these 7 countries the majority is Muslim, in other countries Muslims who agree being persecuted would be the ones given exemption.
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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #184 on: January 30, 2017, 09:46:50 AM »
For all those that say this is not directed at Muslims or there religion can you explain this to me? Why is there an exemption for minority religions?
So people being persecuted for their religion can come to America to escape.
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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #185 on: January 30, 2017, 09:48:56 AM »
MAGA means make AMERICA great again, not necessarily the people. You can take a horse to water, you cant make it drink.
Either way I am all for supporting those who truly support america.
Now Shultz is smart, making it sound like he's helping immigrants, and in reality he's helping those who helped America.
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Re: Re: Lyft
« Reply #186 on: January 30, 2017, 10:00:03 AM »
They where just doing a better job in pretending they care. Or they possibly actually care, because they want future drivers, but not because they care about the actual people themselves. They took a calculated risk in doing what they did (and lost $1M - inflation) and you where just a number in their calculations in what they did.
And Uber did just the opposite, counting on you as a number for a profit.

I have no clue what Uber did or did not do, and I really don't care. I don't care if every company in the US is run by liberals.
What I do know is that Uber didn't shove their political agenda in my face.

(Unrelated- Lyft will write the $1m as a charitable donation, they didn't waste that money)

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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #187 on: January 30, 2017, 10:06:36 AM »
So people being persecuted for their religion can come to America to escape.
If you believe that is why the exemption is in there for Christians I have a bridge to sell you.
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Re: Re: Lyft
« Reply #188 on: January 30, 2017, 10:09:33 AM »
Your obsession for Trump is overtaking your rationality. If they were a solution for you before the, it would be irrational to let a political statement of yours interfere with making a decision that is entirely apolitical.

This has nothing to do with Trump, this has to do with Lyft and me.
I don't want uber to say "all liberals are inhumane" just like I don't want Lyft to take a stance and insult my political views, which in the case of immigration, happen to mostly aligns with Trumps. Companies should stay out of politics, but it's worse when they repeat baseless rhetoric like "against our nation's values" - show me in the constitution where it says that we need to indefinitely accept every immigrant no matter how dangerous they might be? Would lyft gave $1m to the ACLU if they were around in 2011 when Obama did the same thing?

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Re: Re: Lyft
« Reply #189 on: January 30, 2017, 10:13:27 AM »
This has nothing to do with Trump, this has to do with Lyft and me.
I don't want uber to say "all liberals are inhumane" just like I don't want Lyft to take a stance and insult my political views, which in the case of immigration, happen to mostly aligns with Trumps. Companies should stay out of politics, but it's worse when they repeat baseless rhetoric like "against our nation's values" - show me in the constitution where it says that we need to indefinitely accept every immigrant no matter how dangerous they might be? Would lyft gave $1m to the ACLU if they were around in 2011 when Obama did the same thing?
If you are not going to do business with companies that stick their nose in politics you will be relegated back to the stone age.
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Re: Re: Lyft
« Reply #190 on: January 30, 2017, 10:22:16 AM »
If you are not going to do business with companies that stick their nose in politics you will be relegated back to the stone age.

I didn't say they can't stick their nose in politics.
But I think it would be better if they didn't at all.

It's a real issue when they take partisan political stances, which is not usually the case for 99% of companies.

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Re: Re: Lyft
« Reply #191 on: January 30, 2017, 10:26:33 AM »
It's a real issue when they take partisan political stances, which is not usually the case for 99% of companies.
What is a partisan stance? Is saying the wall or this latest EO is wrong a partisan stance?
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Re: Re: Lyft
« Reply #192 on: January 30, 2017, 10:44:54 AM »
What is a partisan stance? Is saying the wall or this latest EO is wrong a partisan stance?

Wall- yes, partisan. Tell me one reason why a US company should say a wall is right or wrong.
EO- Saying you care for refugees is okay. Saying that the EO is "wrong" needs basis for that statement that isn't tied to emotions. It is neither unconstitutional nor unprecedented, so don't go ahead and criticize your customers and say that we believe in something that is "antithetical to our nations core values". On a side note, it is interesting how liberals don't realize how hypocritical they have become- example: Lyft- "We stand together...we want our world to be diverse" while attacking customers who don't agree with their narrow opinions. Same for the "he will not divide us" loonies who think that repeating that mantra all day in front of a camera will bring the nation together. They will never say something like "we will stay together" because that would actually be a positive attempt to get people together.

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Re: Re: Lyft
« Reply #193 on: January 30, 2017, 10:52:45 AM »
Wall- yes, partisan. Tell me one reason why a US company should say a wall is right or wrong.
EO- Saying you care for refugees is okay. Saying that the EO is "wrong" needs basis for that statement that isn't tied to emotions. It is neither unconstitutional nor unprecedented, so don't go ahead and criticize your customers and say that we believe in something that is "antithetical to our nations core values". On a side note, it is interesting how liberals don't realize how hypocritical they have become- example: Lyft- "We stand together...we want our world to be diverse" while attacking customers who don't agree with their narrow opinions. Same for the "he will not divide us" loonies who think that repeating that mantra all day in front of a camera will bring the nation together. They will never say something like "we will stay together" because that would actually be a positive attempt to get people together.
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Re: Re: Lyft
« Reply #194 on: January 30, 2017, 10:53:13 AM »
Wall- yes, partisan. Tell me one reason why a US company should say a wall is right or wrong.
Because they have a right to. Taking a stance on something does not mean it is political or partisan.
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Re: Re: Lyft
« Reply #195 on: January 30, 2017, 11:00:51 AM »
Because they have a right to. Taking a stance on something does not mean it is political or partisan.

The CEO also has the right to walk around with his pants off (well maybe not, let's say he has the right to walk around with a wig and his face painted like a tiger).
What's your point?

Now answer my original question- What stance can a company take against the wall that isn't partisan politics?

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Re: Re: Lyft
« Reply #196 on: January 30, 2017, 11:04:34 AM »
Now answer my original question- What stance can a company take against the wall that isn't partisan politics?
Maybe he believes as I do it is a waste of money and will never work. Is that a political or partisan issue?
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Re: Re: Lyft
« Reply #197 on: January 30, 2017, 11:16:27 AM »
Maybe he believes as I do it is a waste of money and will never work. Is that a political or partisan issue?
Then he should email his friends, not paying customers.

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Re: Re: Lyft
« Reply #198 on: January 30, 2017, 11:20:17 AM »
Maybe he believes as I do it is a waste of money and will never work. Is that a political or partisan issue?

"We believe that the wall is a waste of Mexico's money because the wall will not work to stop illegal immigration. We hope the President gives us a chance to propose better solutions." That's about the only thing they can say that's not partisan, but ain't nobody ever saying that, nor would I advise them to.

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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #199 on: January 30, 2017, 12:45:02 PM »
So this fiasco was caused by everyone except Trump. I guess it had nothing to do with an EO that his own people didn't understand.

"Big problems at airports were caused by Delta computer outage,.....protesters and the tears of Senator Schumer."
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