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theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/28/trump-immigration-ban-syria-muslims-reaction-lawsuits
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Re: Trump banning Muslims entry into the US
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2017, 06:40:44 PM »
The ban is not only on Muslims, it is on nationals of 7 nations that are majority Muslim. So the thousands of Jews that are in Iran currently cannot come to the U.S.

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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2017, 07:08:25 PM »
CNN is saying the ban applies even on permanent residents of the US (green card holders) that's surprising

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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2017, 07:13:53 PM »
The ban is not only on Muslims, it is on nationals of 7 nations that are majority Muslim. So the thousands of Jews that are in Iran currently cannot come to the U.S.
Prioritizes refugee claims on the basis of religious persecution, so long as the applicant belongs to a religion that is a minority in their country of origin.

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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2017, 07:54:01 PM »
1. This should be moved to JS.

2. Kudos to Trump for taking the courage to keep us safe.

3. Shame on the world for retaliating now and not saying anything about the fact that 16 countries deny entry to Israeli citizens.
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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2017, 08:00:14 PM »
Even though parts of this are good, The way it's being implemented is silly. It shouldn't have affected passengers in transit, and especially not to green card holders.

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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2017, 08:07:15 PM »
Why aren't Saudis being banned?

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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2017, 08:13:30 PM »
Why aren't Saudis being banned?
Maybe because he has a business interest there?
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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2017, 08:43:17 PM »
Why aren't Saudis being banned?
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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2017, 08:45:59 PM »
Even though parts of this are good,
Not sure ifi agree with this
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The way it's being implemented is silly. It shouldn't have affected passengers in transit, and especially not to green card holders.
But this is clear
And dual citizens. I have a friend here in yyz who is a Canadian citizen but born in Iran. He's not allowed to do to the States. Crazy
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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2017, 08:46:25 PM »
Why aren't Saudis being banned?
the same reason they aren't banned from Qatar Jordan Egypt and other Muslim countries which are stale and not terrorist states. Even Lebanon isn't included.
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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2017, 08:49:09 PM »
Not sure ifi agree with thisBut this is clear
And dual citizens. I have a friend here in yyz who is a Canadian citizen but born in Iran. He's not allowed to do to the States. Crazy

I thought that religious minorities will still be allowed to enter the US?
In that case your friend should be fine.

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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2017, 08:50:00 PM »
9/11 hijackers were almost all Saudis.

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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2017, 08:50:17 PM »
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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2017, 09:01:54 PM »
CNN is saying the ban applies even on permanent residents of the US (green card holders) that's surprising
+1 this does seem overboard.
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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2017, 09:09:38 PM »
Not sure ifi agree with thisBut this is clear
And dual citizens. I have a friend here in yyz who is a Canadian citizen but born in Iran. He's not allowed to do to the States. Crazy
Source?

(That it applies to dual citizens)

Edit: found it in WSJ, how would that work though, when a Canadian enters the US and presents his Canadian passport, how would they know he has another one?
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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2017, 09:44:41 PM »
Source?

(That it applies to dual citizens)

Edit: found it in WSJ, how would that work though, when a Canadian enters the US and presents his Canadian passport, how would they know he has another one?

https://www.theatlantic.com/please-support-us/?next=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theatlantic.com%2Fnews%2Farchive%2F2017%2F01%2Ftrump-immigration-order-muslims%2F514844%2F#seen
His friend will be allowed to enter because the ban only applies to Muslims and not religious minorities.
However the ban does apply to Muslims with dual citizenship.

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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2017, 10:03:06 PM »
Why aren't Saudis being banned?
the same reason they aren't banned from Qatar Jordan Egypt and other Muslim countries which are stale and not terrorist states. Even Lebanon isn't included.
9/11 hijackers were almost all Saudis.
Lets not bring facts into this discussion.
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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2017, 10:13:00 PM »
This isn't why Saudis aren't on the list 
Hint: it follows the Obama administrations classification of countries of "concern". 

https://sethfrantzman.com/2017/01/28/obamas-administration-made-the-muslim-ban-possible-and-the-media-wont-tell-you/