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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2017, 09:01:54 PM »
CNN is saying the ban applies even on permanent residents of the US (green card holders) that's surprising
+1 this does seem overboard.
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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2017, 09:09:38 PM »
Not sure ifi agree with thisBut this is clear
And dual citizens. I have a friend here in yyz who is a Canadian citizen but born in Iran. He's not allowed to do to the States. Crazy
Source?

(That it applies to dual citizens)

Edit: found it in WSJ, how would that work though, when a Canadian enters the US and presents his Canadian passport, how would they know he has another one?
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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2017, 09:44:41 PM »
Source?

(That it applies to dual citizens)

Edit: found it in WSJ, how would that work though, when a Canadian enters the US and presents his Canadian passport, how would they know he has another one?

https://www.theatlantic.com/please-support-us/?next=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theatlantic.com%2Fnews%2Farchive%2F2017%2F01%2Ftrump-immigration-order-muslims%2F514844%2F#seen
His friend will be allowed to enter because the ban only applies to Muslims and not religious minorities.
However the ban does apply to Muslims with dual citizenship.
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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2017, 10:03:06 PM »
Why aren't Saudis being banned?
the same reason they aren't banned from Qatar Jordan Egypt and other Muslim countries which are stale and not terrorist states. Even Lebanon isn't included.
9/11 hijackers were almost all Saudis.
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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2017, 10:13:00 PM »
This isn't why Saudis aren't on the list 
Hint: it follows the Obama administrations classification of countries of "concern". 

https://sethfrantzman.com/2017/01/28/obamas-administration-made-the-muslim-ban-possible-and-the-media-wont-tell-you/
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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #20 on: January 28, 2017, 10:16:06 PM »
+1 this does seem overboard.

They seems to have partially walked back the green card ban, it is now being reported green card holders can get a waiver

The dual citizenship thing seems like mis-information to me. A Canadian citizen, for example, can enter the US with his Canadian passport with no need to reference his other passport AFAIK

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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #21 on: January 28, 2017, 10:23:34 PM »
Lets not bring facts into this discussion.
They have plenty of issues among their citizenry, but to compare them to the seven included is what would be ignoring facts.
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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2017, 10:26:47 PM »
They seems to have partially walked back the green card ban, it is now being reported green card holders can get a waiver

The dual citizenship thing seems like mis-information to me. A Canadian citizen, for example, can enter the US with his Canadian passport with no need to reference his other passport AFAIK

I provided a link above proving that you're wrong.
If you have dual citizenship, Canada and Sudan, you won't be allowed entry to the US if you're Muslim.
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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #23 on: January 28, 2017, 10:35:25 PM »
I provided a link above proving that you're wrong.
If you have dual citizenship, Canada and Sudan, you won't be allowed entry to the US if you're Muslim.
If a ban cannot be enforced it's not much of a ban. How exactly would they know if someone is Muslim? Or if he is even a national of a 2nd Country for that purpose?

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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #24 on: January 28, 2017, 10:38:36 PM »
If a ban cannot be enforced it's not much of a ban. How exactly would they know if someone is Muslim? Or if he is even a national of a 2nd Country for that purpose?

1. Prove that you're not a Muslim
2. Your passport would probably state your birthplace
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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #25 on: January 28, 2017, 10:40:48 PM »
How would one go about proving he is a Muslim or not ?

Your second point I agree with, that would indicate the person is probably a national of that country as well

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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #26 on: January 28, 2017, 11:18:51 PM »
How would one go about proving he is a Muslim or not ?

Your second point I agree with, that would indicate the person is probably a national of that country as well

Ask the person to draw a pic of Muhammad.

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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #27 on: January 28, 2017, 11:48:21 PM »
I'm curious. Are most people here 100% for or against this?
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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #28 on: January 28, 2017, 11:51:45 PM »
I'm curious. Are most people here 100% for or against this?
This calls for a poll

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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #29 on: January 29, 2017, 12:07:44 AM »
I'm curious. Are most people here 100% for or against this?
Does it have to be 100% one way or another?
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