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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #30 on: January 29, 2017, 12:08:43 AM »
Does it have to be 100% one way or another?
No. I'm just curious if there are those who are.  When someone else create a poll I'd add more options.  :)
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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #31 on: January 29, 2017, 12:38:46 AM »
1. This should be moved to JS.

2. Kudos to Trump for taking the courage to keep us safe.

3. Shame on the world for retaliating now and not saying anything about the fact that 16 countries deny entry to Israeli citizens.

As you being one of the big defender's of trump I was wondering where u disappeared, bh your back.
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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #32 on: January 29, 2017, 12:52:43 AM »
From a legal standpoint, a federal judge can overturn an executive order from the POTUS?

In any case I have an inside feeling that if the Trump administration is not going to do any revisions on this order this is not going to end very pretty.
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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #33 on: January 29, 2017, 12:59:15 AM »
From a legal standpoint, a federal judge can overturn an executive order from the POTUS?

In any case I have an inside feeling that if the Trump administration is not going to do any revisions on this order this is not going to end very pretty.
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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #34 on: January 29, 2017, 01:00:12 AM »
How would one go about proving he is a Muslim or not ?

Apparently- "Under federal law, the executive branch is expressly required to take religion into account in determining who is granted asylum. Under the provision governing asylum (section 1158 of Title 8, U.S. Code), an alien applying for admission must establish that religion [among other things] was or will be at least one central reason for persecuting the applicant.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/427262/refugee-religious-test-shameful-and-not-american-except-federal-law-requires-it-andrew
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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #35 on: January 29, 2017, 01:15:24 AM »
I am pro this executive order. Trump was elected to keep America safe and not worry about the PC nonsense, and this all is part of it. If you are against this, were you outraged when Obama administration did the same thing to Iraqi refugees in 2011?
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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #36 on: January 29, 2017, 01:35:15 AM »
I am pro this executive order. Trump was elected to keep America safe and not worry about the PC nonsense, and this all is part of it. If you are against this, were you outraged when Obama administration did the same thing to Iraqi refugees in 2011?
Did he include those who already had visas or green cards?
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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #37 on: January 29, 2017, 01:47:18 AM »
Did he include those who already had visas or green cards?

It seems like the administration wasn't clear in the beginning and caused confusion though now it's been clarified that green card holders can come in but might require additional screening.
Not sure about vida holders though.
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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #38 on: January 29, 2017, 02:30:20 AM »
It seems like the administration wasn't clear in the beginning and caused confusion though now it's been clarified that green card holders can come in but might require additional screening.
Not sure about vida holders though.
Green card ban made no sense. Ban on already approved visas makes a little more sense, but still odd. I think judge order to allow anyone who is already here / on the way is the right thing.

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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #39 on: January 29, 2017, 03:16:02 AM »
Ban on any religion gets me nervous,  I won't deny that. 

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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #40 on: January 29, 2017, 03:59:27 AM »
Ban on any religion gets me nervous,  I won't deny that.
Why? You are probably not next on the list.
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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #41 on: January 29, 2017, 04:03:22 AM »
Why? You are probably not next on the list.
Where does the list end though?
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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #42 on: January 29, 2017, 04:04:57 AM »
Why? You are probably not next on the list.
That wasn't my concern.  It's fundamentally not American,  and not in the interest of religious liberties,  which do affect me. As an aside,  I don't see how it would work 

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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #43 on: January 29, 2017, 04:09:57 AM »
Where does the list end though?
That's not important. The ignorance comes from thinking you are safe.
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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
« Reply #44 on: January 29, 2017, 06:39:22 AM »
That wasn't my concern.  It's fundamentally not American,  and not in the interest of religious liberties,  which do affect me. As an aside,  I don't see how it would work

American law already distinguishes been religions when granting refugee status. So I'm not sure that makes Trumps or obamas actions less American. 
I also didn't know non-citizens were afforded religious liberties or rights.
It's a privilege to visit our country not a right!
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