Author Topic: Driving Ticket in Israel (Read 3351 times)

Iz · « **on:** February 01, 2017, 12:28:13 AM »

This is DW writing for my husband. He traveled to Israel. On the way from the airport to his lodgings the cops pulled them over. Someone was driving my husband but since it was not a taxi my husband received a ticket for not buckling up in the back seat! The cop told him that there is a new system in place linking his passport to this ticket. Is this true? What happens if he goes home without paying? Would he be successful in contesting the ticket based on the fact that he was unaware of the law as in his home state it's not required to buckle up in the back seat?

sky121 · « **Reply #1 on:** February 01, 2017, 01:04:16 AM »

Quote from: Iz on February 01, 2017, 12:28:13 AM

This is DW writing for my husband. He traveled to Israel. On the way from the airport to his lodgings the cops pulled them over. Someone was driving my husband but since it was not a taxi my husband received a ticket for not buckling up in the back seat! The cop told him that there is a new system in place linking his passport to this ticket. Is this true? What happens if he goes home without paying? Would he be successful in contesting the ticket based on the fact that he was unaware of the law as in his home state it's not required to buckle up in the back seat?

Though you can always try contesting a ticket that excuse will not fly over there.

1356Abe · « **Reply #2 on:** February 01, 2017, 01:43:42 AM »

Quote from: Iz on February 01, 2017, 12:28:13 AM

This is DW writing for my husband. He traveled to Israel. On the way from the airport to his lodgings the cops pulled them over. Someone was driving my husband but since it was not a taxi my husband received a ticket for not buckling up in the back seat! The cop told him that there is a new system in place linking his passport to this ticket. Is this true? What happens if he goes home without paying? Would he be successful in contesting the ticket based on the fact that he was unaware of the law as in his home state it's not required to buckle up in the back seat?

Never show your passport to Israeli police officer. That is the only way they have of keeping a record on you.
How much is ticket? Might be worth it to get a new passport.

Emkay · « **Reply #3 on:** February 01, 2017, 04:17:25 AM »

Quote from: 1356Abe on February 01, 2017, 01:43:42 AM

Never show your passport to Israeli police officer. That is the only way they have of keeping a record on you.

Classis misconception.
Either way if they want your passport they will get it.

hocker · « **Reply #4 on:** February 01, 2017, 04:57:41 AM »

Quote from: Emkay on February 01, 2017, 04:17:25 AM

Classis misconception.
Either way if they want your passport they will get it.

Not giving it makes them want it less.

Its weird that the cop actually went after a Chutznik for a seat belt ticket. I personally wouldn't pay for it and see how it plays out. That's just me.

I doubt they'll stop you from leaving the country although I may be wrong. I've yet to meet someone who was stopped at the border for not paying a ticket.

1356Abe · « **Reply #5 on:** February 01, 2017, 11:29:11 AM »

Quote from: Emkay on February 01, 2017, 04:17:25 AM

Classis misconception.
Either way if they want your passport they will get it.

Why do you say that?

Emkay · « **Reply #6 on:** February 01, 2017, 11:40:13 AM »

Quote from: 1356Abe on February 01, 2017, 11:29:11 AM

Why do you say that?

Do you really think that your passport isn't in the system? How do you think you got into the country? By the guy asking you your name and taking your word for it? This isn't a third world country. Do you also believe the story about the guy who fooled the cop into thinking his Costco card was his license from the country of Costco? I didn't say they will, rather they could.
Also if they really want it they will make someone bring it if you claim its not on you, or they will take you in until someone brings it. You may get away with it but to say there's nothing they can do is naive.

1356Abe · « **Reply #7 on:** February 01, 2017, 12:36:52 PM »

Quote from: Emkay on February 01, 2017, 11:40:13 AM

Do you really think that your passport isn't in the system? How do you think you got into the country? By the guy asking you your name and taking your word for it? This isn't a third world country. Do you also believe the story about the guy who fooled the cop into thinking his Costco card was his license from the country of Costco? I didn't say they will, rather they could.
Also if they really want it they will make someone bring it if you claim its not on you, or they will take you in until someone brings it. You may get away with it but to say there's nothing they can do is naive.

No, you get into the country by showing your passport. And being that it's not a third world country if you give them your passport then they have a way of tracking you if you don't give them your passport they don't have a way of tracking you. That is why I was saying you never give them your passport unless they force you to give it to them. I'm not sure what it has to do with the Costco story but I'm guessing that you see some connection. And just for the record I got pulled over numerous times and every time they asked me for my passport and I said I do not have it and after like a couple of minutes of deliberating what they were going to do that just told me to drive off. Never did I get a ticket for a moving violation.

Emkay · « **Reply #8 on:** February 01, 2017, 12:40:59 PM »

Quote from: 1356Abe on February 01, 2017, 12:36:52 PM

No, you get into the country by showing your passport. And being that it's not a third world country if you give them your passport then they have a way of tracking you if you don't give them your passport they don't have a way of tracking you. That is why I was saying you never give them your passport unless they force you to give it to them. I'm not sure what it has to do with the Costco story but I'm guessing that you see some connection. And just for the record I got pulled over numerous times and every time they asked me for my passport and I said I do not have it and after like a couple of minutes of deliberating what they were going to do that just told me to drive off. Never did I get a ticket for a moving violation.

They can track you by your info on your drivers license.
As I said before they can, though that doesn't mean they will.

1356Abe · « **Reply #9 on:** February 01, 2017, 12:47:23 PM »

Quote from: Emkay on February 01, 2017, 12:40:59 PM

They can track you by your info on your drivers license.
As I said before they can, though that doesn't mean they will.

Do you have any proof to what you are saying? That is absolutely false, they have no way of keeping record of an American license.

Emkay · « **Reply #10 on:** February 01, 2017, 12:55:29 PM »

Quote from: 1356Abe on February 01, 2017, 12:47:23 PM

Do you have any proof to what you are saying? That is absolutely false, they have no way of keeping record of an American license.

I never said using the license number. By looking up name and other info. And yes, this happened to me 2 months ago, I didnt think it was possible either but after asking around I found at least 4 others also.
Also I have been through the legal system here so I have some grasp of what's possible.

1356Abe · « **Reply #11 on:** February 01, 2017, 01:30:14 PM »

Quote from: Emkay on February 01, 2017, 12:55:29 PM

I never said using the license number. By looking up name and other info. And yes, this happened to me 2 months ago, I didnt think it was possible either but after asking around I found at least 4 others also.
Also I have been through the legal system here so I have some grasp of what's possible.

Your name and what other info? There are thousands of people with the same name

Emkay · « **Reply #12 on:** February 01, 2017, 01:32:27 PM »

Quote from: 1356Abe on February 01, 2017, 01:30:14 PM

Your name and what other info? There are thousands of people with the same name

Address, DOB... Everything is on it.
You can doubt it all you want, just remember that your doubt doesn't make something any less true.

1356Abe · « **Reply #13 on:** February 01, 2017, 01:54:54 PM »

Quote from: Emkay on February 01, 2017, 01:32:27 PM

Address, DOB... Everything is on it.
You can doubt it all you want, just remember that your doubt doesn't make something any less true.

It sounds quite interesting to me that they're able to keep a record of your address but they're not able to keep a record of your license number. And besides if that's the case then why are they always demanding your passport?

Iz · « **Reply #14 on:** February 01, 2017, 02:07:34 PM »

Thanks.

Emkay · « **Reply #15 on:** February 01, 2017, 02:10:39 PM »

Quote from: 1356Abe on February 01, 2017, 01:54:54 PM

It sounds quite interesting to me that they're able to keep a record of your address but they're not able to keep a record of your license number. And besides if that's the case then why are they always demanding your passport?

I have no idea, nor do I have any idea what process they need to go through to get it, although at which point prior to getting pulled over did they have your license number? May not be worth it for them to track you down. When I got pulled over I gave them a false number and they awkwardly came back with the real number. Took them at least 10 minutes though.

Lushkab · « **Reply #16 on:** February 01, 2017, 09:42:54 PM »

I got a parking ticket in Israel, should i pay it? Will the rental company (BUDGET) deduct from my CC ?
I'm not planning going back to Israel anytime soon

nafnaf12 · « **Reply #17 on:** February 02, 2017, 01:27:52 AM »

Quote from: Lushkab on February 01, 2017, 09:42:54 PM

I got a parking ticket in Israel, should i pay it? Will the rental company (BUDGET) deduct from my CC ?
I'm not planning going back to Israel anytime soon

see here
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=28779.225

shmuelb · « **Reply #18 on:** February 02, 2017, 02:35:21 AM »

They ask for your passport to see if you are there legally and how long.

You can send in a letter to explain and see if they will change the ticket to a warning, or if that does not help,go to court and explain to judge. Be respectful!

Iz · « **Reply #19 on:** February 05, 2017, 05:33:01 AM »

I finally got some internet (in TK lounge

), so I can write for myself (thanks DW!

).
First of all thanks to all who weighed in. I actually decided to pay it (it's 250 shekel), however, every time I called, they couldn't find it in the system. So I left, with nary a mention of it at PP conrtrol. So now the question is if I should send in the בקשה להשפט with the excuse that in NJ it's not required, or should I just ignore it. It's definitely not worth getting a new PP, as that is more expensive than the ticket. Any thoughts? Thanks!