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does any one know anything about the sonata vs mazada 6? i know dan said the sonata pas seat is very low any other input?

BTW i had similar story last summer in LA i reserved a maxima and all they said they had was a town car or aveo. so i told them i plan on renting a boat for a couple hours on water not a week on land and the guy was laughing and then "found" a infinity g37 for a only a couple bucks more !!

Dan · « **Reply #106 on:** May 26, 2011, 09:43:26 AM »

Quote from: youG on May 26, 2011, 09:36:24 AM

does any one know anything about the sonata vs mazada 6? i know dan said the sonata pas seat is very low any other input?

BTW i had similar story last summer in LA i reserved a maxima and all they said they had was a town car or aveo. so i told them i plan on renting a boat for a couple hours on water not a week on land and the guy was laughing and then "found" a infinity g37 for a only a couple bucks more !!

I liked the Sonata a lot, but the front passenger seat is definitely lower than other cars. If your passenger isn't at least 5'4" they better enjoy the view of the dashboard as they won't be seeing much outside...
Dumb, dumb, dumb move Hyundai!

I haven't even tried a Mazda yet. I just associate that car (atah ohev et ha'maaazzda...) with renting a car in Israel, which is always a experience from gehenem...probably not very fair to it but that's life.

Right now I'm heavily leaning towards to the '11 Altima 2.5SL with CVT transmission. Seems like a very fun car in my test driving and the fully loaded version seems to be very negotiable in price and gets great gas mileage.

aussiebochur · « **Reply #107 on:** May 26, 2011, 09:47:56 AM »

Quote from: Dan on May 26, 2011, 09:43:26 AM

I liked the Sonata a lot, but the front passenger seat is definitely lower than other cars. If your passenger isn't at least 5'4" they better enjoy the view of the dashboard as they won't be seeing much outside...
Dumb, dumb, dumb move Hyundai!

Isn't that what phone books are for?

txtmax4 · « **Reply #108 on:** May 26, 2011, 12:21:52 PM »

You'll be putting much more money into Mazda repairs down the line. IMO go for the Sonata.

Dan · « **Reply #109 on:** May 26, 2011, 12:23:10 PM »

Quote from: aussiebochur on May 26, 2011, 09:47:56 AM

Isn't that what phone books are for?

Lol...

youG · « **Reply #110 on:** May 26, 2011, 04:14:52 PM »

thanks Dan quick q. how were you able to get prices on those cars through email? i emailed a couple dealers for prices on a sonata and they all emailed me back to come in for a test drive and talk it through. and when i emailed them back that i just want a quote i didnt get any replies!!

Yeki89 · « **Reply #111 on:** May 26, 2011, 04:54:08 PM »

my dad just got the sonata, for the price you can't complain. Also you can get the 60,000 10 year warrtany - and good to go!

est · « **Reply #112 on:** May 26, 2011, 09:25:26 PM »

dan how bout you give us some ideas of how to go about negotiating a better price on a buy - im looking to buy now too.

txtmax4 · « **Reply #113 on:** May 26, 2011, 09:41:21 PM »

Quote from: est on May 26, 2011, 09:25:26 PM

dan how bout you give us some ideas of how to go about negotiating a better price on a buy - im looking to buy now too.

+1

Dan · « **Reply #114 on:** May 26, 2011, 10:21:45 PM »

Quote from: youG on May 26, 2011, 04:14:52 PM

thanks Dan quick q. how were you able to get prices on those cars through email? i emailed a couple dealers for prices on a sonata and they all emailed me back to come in for a test drive and talk it through. and when i emailed them back that i just want a quote i didnt get any replies!!

Keep pestering them, tell them you don't have time to come in and that you want to buy something this week.
Granted many dealers don't like to give out the door quotes via email, but they will if pushed.

Quote from: est on May 26, 2011, 09:25:26 PM

dan how bout you give us some ideas of how to go about negotiating a better price on a buy - im looking to buy now too.

You can look on AMEX ZAG for a negotiating point but you can do better.

I was in a dealership yesterday negotiating on at $27,500+ Altima with leather/fully loaded. They tell you they only make $2K profit, blah, blah, blah.
I countered with $21K+ and they laughed at me, but after a number of rounds of negotiating the price came tumbling down to $21,500+. Now I'm emailing other dealers from other states to see if it can be had for under $21K+.

aussiebochur · « **Reply #115 on:** May 26, 2011, 10:27:28 PM »

If you buy out of state, do they deliver or you go and pick it up?

Dan · « **Reply #116 on:** May 26, 2011, 10:34:07 PM »

Quote from: aussiebochur on May 26, 2011, 10:27:28 PM

If you buy out of state, do they deliver or you go and pick it up?

I would fly to BWI or NYC (going to NYC anyway, or buy an $80 OW ticket to BWI) and drive back if the savings were significant.
Of course first I would show the quote to the local dealerships and see if they'll match it or at least come close.
The trick is just getting the out the door quote in writing.

aussiebochur · « **Reply #117 on:** May 26, 2011, 10:47:59 PM »

Do more expensive cars have more room to negotiate?
Say if you could get $6000 off a $30,000 vehicle would you be able to get more off a $60,000 vehicle?
Basically, do they drop a certain amount of dollars or is it percentage?

Dan · « **Reply #118 on:** May 26, 2011, 10:53:00 PM »

Quote from: aussiebochur on May 26, 2011, 10:47:59 PM

Do more expensive cars have more room to negotiate?
Say if you could get $6000 off a $30,000 vehicle would you be able to get more off a $60,000 vehicle?
Basically, do they drop a certain amount of dollars or is it percentage?

Depends on the car the time of year, current manufacturer incentives, etc. I once got a $42K Odyssey down to $33.5K.

Even if you want to pay in full with cash it can be worthwhile to finance it to get the rebates for that and then just pay it back after a couple months or so.

Nitantnel · « **Reply #119 on:** May 26, 2011, 11:38:44 PM »

Quote from: Dan on May 26, 2011, 10:21:45 PM

You can look on AMEX ZAG for a negotiating point but you can do better.

I was in a dealership yesterday negotiating on at $27,500+ Altima with leather/fully loaded. They tell you they only make $2K profit, blah, blah, blah.
I countered with $21K+ and they laughed at me, but after a number of rounds of negotiating the price came tumbling down to $21,500+. Now I'm emailing other dealers from other states to see if it can be had for under $21K+.

Can you record the (audio of the) negotiation for us, or that's asking too much? I just can't seem to comprehend the willingness on their part to "loose money off you!"

Also, Dave Ramsey claims that cash - real cash - is the best negotiating tool. Ever tried that?

you'll have to get a anti shakes or something to carry it.

unless you want to bring coins form the mint - for which you might need a truck...