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www.shabbosgetaways.blogspot.com
www.reservekosher.com/listing-great,-kosher-hotel-in-piscataway,-nj-1488.html
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Halachic info
http://www.star-k.org/articles/kashrus-kurrents/501/the-travelers-halachic-guide-to-hotels/
www.yutorah.org/togo/sukkot/articles/sukkot_to-go_-_5770_rabbi_flug.pdf
www.crcweb.org/ask_rav/shabbosinhotel.php

Dan's AC sensor override (VIP mode) instructions 
Most hotels in Hawaii have an Inncom thermostat. 
To enter VIP mode:
-While you are holding "display"
- Press "off", then
- Press "Up" arrow
-Then release "display"
You still can't open/close the balcony, (It still displays if the balcony is open or closed, but it lets the AC run while the balcony is open.)
 but the AC will run if you leave it open and you won't be trapped in your room.  Plus you can also set the AC to lower temps in VIP mode.

Ideas to enter hotel rooms with electronic locks
-Many like to just tape down the latch hole to ensure easy access  (simplest way is to tape the key card over the hole)
-some will just stuff the hole with tissues (you run the risk of it slipping out)
-on cruises, and some hotels, you can use one of those thin refrigerator magnets, put it on the door jamb to cover the hole where the door latch goes.
-others rely on the poskim who allow you to ask a goy (see above)
-exterior portable lock http://www.thexlock.com/
and then there's the best one yet
-Haven't tried it at a hotel but on a cruise I tied a gartel to the inside door handle and left a little sticking out the bottom of the door. I just had to pull the gartel and the door opened. :)


Packing List
challah (4x)                                                        paper plates                             large mixing bowl
wine/grape juice (3x)                                         paper cups                               plastic disposable containers
Plastic silver kiddush cup                                    silver pasticware                      BAGGIES, 3 sizes, tons
neirois (Fri night + Motzei shabbos-2x)              tablecloth (or white towels)     Israeli small/large baggies
matches                                                             white napkins                           tape
empty cans (upside down) as safe holders        shnaps plastic cups                  rope
besomim (cinnamon/cloves)                               shnaps bottle                       timer(s)
havdollah ner (or 2 shabbos ones)                    negel vasser cup                     3prong-to-2prong plug adapters (for timers)
bentchers/zmirois                                              sharp pareve knife                shabbos tissues
siddurs                                                               cutting mat
tinfoil                                                                  sharp fleishig knife

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Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
« on: May 18, 2011, 01:02:39 PM »
It seems that there is wa y to disable this motion sensor from this PDF. Is there anyone who is in a hotel that can try?


http://www.inncom.com/INNCOM_Video/Level_2/E4SmartDigitalThermostat-OM_APP.pdf


BTW this is for the Inncom thermostat which is pretty popular in most hotel chains
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Re: Motion sensor AC on Shabbos.
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2011, 01:14:14 PM »
It seems that there is wa y to disable it from this PDF. Is there anyone who is in a hotel that can try?


http://www.inncom.com/INNCOM_Video/Level_2/E4SmartDigitalThermostat-OM_APP.pdf


BTW this is for the Inncom thermostat which is pretty popular in most hotel chains

AC works on a motion sensor? What if I want it on while I sleep?
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Re: Motion sensor AC on Shabbos.
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2011, 01:15:09 PM »
AC works on a motion sensor? What if I want it on while I sleep?
ive seen this in a number of hotels

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Re: Motion sensor AC on Shabbos.
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2011, 01:28:47 PM »
AC works on a motion sensor? What if I want it on while I sleep?

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Re: Motion sensor AC on Shabbos.
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2011, 05:05:22 PM »
Maintenance can disable them if you ask the front desk nicely.

In Hawaii most hotel balconies have AC sensors that I make sure to get disabled before shabbos.
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Re: Motion sensor AC on Shabbos.
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2011, 05:13:56 PM »
Maintenance can disable them if you ask the front desk nicely.

In Hawaii most hotel balconies have AC sensors that I make sure to get disabled before shabbos.
sometimes the balcony and door sensors just have batteries, take 'em out

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Re: Motion sensor AC on Shabbos.
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2011, 05:19:20 PM »
sometimes the balcony and door sensors just have batteries, take 'em out
Not IME in Hawaii.
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Re: Motion sensor AC on Shabbos.
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2011, 07:56:25 PM »
i just cover it with an undershirt

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Re: Motion sensor AC on Shabbos.
« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2011, 07:56:59 PM »
i just cover it with an undershirt
then the air is off all shabbos

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Re: Motion sensor AC on Shabbos.
« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2011, 08:04:06 PM »
it isnt though, similar to when you are asleep

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Re: Motion sensor AC on Shabbos.
« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2011, 08:10:39 PM »
so it stays on?
so how does it know if u r sleeping or if u aren't there??
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Re: Motion sensor AC on Shabbos.
« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2011, 08:30:34 PM »
i just cover it with an undershirt
Cover what?
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Re: Motion sensor AC on Shabbos.
« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2011, 08:34:50 PM »
the sensor

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Re: Motion sensor AC on Shabbos.
« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2011, 08:37:30 PM »
the sensor
In the Hawaiian hotels I've been in there is no visible sensor by the balcony.
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Re: Motion sensor AC on Shabbos.
« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2011, 08:43:30 PM »
im referring to the one that's in the corner of the room where theres room in the back to tuck it in

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Re: Motion sensor AC on Shabbos.
« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2011, 08:46:42 PM »
im referring to the one that's in the corner of the room where theres room in the back to tuck it in
Doesn't exist in Sheraton HNL, Westin Moana Surfrider HNL, GH Kauai, Hyatt Maui, etc, etc.
Simple call to the FD does the trick.
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Re: Motion sensor AC on Shabbos.
« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2011, 08:47:05 PM »
Put a perpetual motion machine in front of it.

Or just a fan.

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Re: Motion sensor AC on Shabbos.
« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2011, 08:48:53 PM »
Put a perpetual motion machine in front of it.

Or just a fan.
quite practical

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Re: Motion sensor AC on Shabbos.
« Reply #18 on: May 18, 2011, 09:00:23 PM »
Maintenance can disable them if you ask the front desk nicely.

In Hawaii most hotel balconies have AC sensors that I make sure to get disabled before shabbos.
they are usually in the top of the door track and not motion sensors, but actual buttons/switches in the top.

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Re: Motion sensor AC on Shabbos.
« Reply #19 on: May 18, 2011, 09:34:06 PM »
In the Hawaiian hotels I've been in there is no visible sensor by the balcony.
I would imagine that they are pressure sensors, similar to what some alarm systems use for doors. These must be disabled.

Moish is probably referring to motion sensors which can be covered and therefore won't be triggered by movement.