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www.hotelsnearshuls.com
www.shabbosgetaways.blogspot.com
www.reservekosher.com/listing-great,-kosher-hotel-in-piscataway,-nj-1488.html
www.godaven.com

Halachic info
http://www.star-k.org/articles/kashrus-kurrents/501/the-travelers-halachic-guide-to-hotels/
www.yutorah.org/togo/sukkot/articles/sukkot_to-go_-_5770_rabbi_flug.pdf
www.crcweb.org/ask_rav/shabbosinhotel.php

Dan's AC sensor override (VIP mode) instructions 
Most hotels in Hawaii have an Inncom thermostat. 
To enter VIP mode:
-While you are holding "display"
- Press "off", then
- Press "Up" arrow
-Then release "display"
You still can't open/close the balcony, (It still displays if the balcony is open or closed, but it lets the AC run while the balcony is open.)
 but the AC will run if you leave it open and you won't be trapped in your room.  Plus you can also set the AC to lower temps in VIP mode.

Ideas to enter hotel rooms with electronic locks
-Many like to just tape down the latch hole to ensure easy access  (simplest way is to tape the key card over the hole)
-some will just stuff the hole with tissues (you run the risk of it slipping out)
-on cruises, and some hotels, you can use one of those thin refrigerator magnets, put it on the door jamb to cover the hole where the door latch goes.
-others rely on the poskim who allow you to ask a goy (see above)
-exterior portable lock http://www.thexlock.com/
and then there's the best one yet
-Haven't tried it at a hotel but on a cruise I tied a gartel to the inside door handle and left a little sticking out the bottom of the door. I just had to pull the gartel and the door opened. :)


Packing List
challah (4x)                                                        paper plates                             large mixing bowl
wine/grape juice (3x)                                         paper cups                               plastic disposable containers
Plastic silver kiddush cup                                    silver pasticware                      BAGGIES, 3 sizes, tons
neirois (Fri night + Motzei shabbos-2x)              tablecloth (or white towels)     Israeli small/large baggies
matches                                                             white napkins                           tape
empty cans (upside down) as safe holders        shnaps plastic cups                  rope
besomim (cinnamon/cloves)                               shnaps bottle                       timer(s)
havdollah ner (or 2 shabbos ones)                    negel vasser cup                     3prong-to-2prong plug adapters (for timers)
bentchers/zmirois                                              sharp pareve knife                shabbos tissues
siddurs                                                               cutting mat
tinfoil                                                                  sharp fleishig knife

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Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
« Reply #100 on: June 02, 2013, 09:31:30 PM »
Bonus points if you find my AC Balcony override instructions :)
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Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
« Reply #101 on: June 02, 2013, 09:35:05 PM »
Where did I post it? Could have been either.
But they have that same thermostat in the vast majority of hotels.
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« Reply #102 on: June 02, 2013, 10:42:35 PM »
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Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
« Reply #103 on: June 02, 2013, 11:16:12 PM »
At a wedding a few years ago in michigan in the winter, the best western gave us the meeting room for free.
We were taking 15 -20 rooms the first night and about 10 for another 3 nights.
This was on top of matching a diff hotels room price.
If ur going with the whole family it pays to go to a place out of the usual circuit

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Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
« Reply #104 on: June 03, 2013, 01:35:38 AM »
Wow great work!
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Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
« Reply #105 on: June 27, 2013, 09:01:39 PM »
Currently in Westin Bayshore in vancouver.

Got a room on low floor but it seems that the lights in the stairwell go on brighter when you use stairs. Anyone know how to deal with this issue?

(the lights are on even before the sensor but they get brighter if you trigger them- i think that may make a halachic difference but not sure)

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Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
« Reply #106 on: June 27, 2013, 09:06:45 PM »
Currently in Westin Bayshore in vancouver.

Got a room on low floor but it seems that the lights in the stairwell go on brighter when you use stairs. Anyone know how to deal with this issue?

(the lights are on even before the sensor but they get brighter if you trigger them- i think that may make a halachic difference but not sure)
Find another hotel? Any ground floor rooms or alternate staircases?
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Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
« Reply #107 on: June 27, 2013, 09:09:00 PM »
Currently in Westin Bayshore in vancouver.

Got a room on low floor but it seems that the lights in the stairwell go on brighter when you use stairs. Anyone know how to deal with this issue?

(the lights are on even before the sensor but they get brighter if you trigger them- i think that may make a halachic difference but not sure)

Did not have that issue when I was there. Perhaps there is another stair case?
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Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
« Reply #108 on: June 27, 2013, 10:46:38 PM »
Currently in Westin Bayshore in vancouver.

Got a room on low floor but it seems that the lights in the stairwell go on brighter when you use stairs. Anyone know how to deal with this issue?

(the lights are on even before the sensor but they get brighter if you trigger them- i think that may make a halachic difference but not sure)
A dimmer can be mutar lechtichala on shabbos, depends on the type of bulb (intensifying an electric current is not a problem, only if it intensifies a flame or closes additional circuits).

Either way if you don't need the light to get down the stairs it is פסיק רישא דלא ניחא ליה, which according to R Shlomo Zalman that electricity is derbanen is not a problem. The only problem is according to the chazon ish that electricity is deoriasa. AFAIK most people are not machmir.
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Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
« Reply #109 on: June 27, 2013, 10:57:25 PM »
A dimmer can be mutar lechtichala on shabbos, depends on the type of bulb (intensifying an electric current is not a problem, only if it intensifies a flame or closes additional circuits).

Either way if you don't need the light to get down the stairs it is פסיק רישא דלא ניחא ליה, which according to R Shlomo Zalman that electricity is derbanen is not a problem. The only problem is according to the chazon ish that electricity is deoriasa. AFAIK most people are not machmir.
if it enhances (ie: makes it easier to to go down) it may be nicha lei

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Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
« Reply #110 on: June 27, 2013, 11:21:02 PM »
I am in middle of planning larger family shabbos  at a hotel( payed with points) complete with a minyan and meeting room and will keep posting as I gather more info. Marriott (Courtyard, Fairfield, and Residence Inn) have been much more reasonable and allow outside food as long as you sign a liability waiver . Rates on meeting rooms at Marriott seem to run about $500 for Fri. afternoon through Motza'ai Shabbos ($300 for shabbos and $150 for Fri. +tax.). This is still a work in progress and will keep posting as it progresses
Booked. :D more details to follow. Anyone have any info on how or where to get a sefer torah for shabbos?

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Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
« Reply #111 on: June 27, 2013, 11:44:26 PM »
A dimmer can be mutar lechtichala on shabbos, depends on the type of bulb (intensifying an electric current is not a problem, only if it intensifies a flame or closes additional circuits).

Either way if you don't need the light to get down the stairs it is פסיק רישא דלא ניחא ליה, which according to R Shlomo Zalman that electricity is derbanen is not a problem. The only problem is according to the chazon ish that electricity is deoriasa. AFAIK most people are not machmir.

Sorry to be mean, but halachos cannot be asked from so called I-Rabbis on public anonymous forums. Call the Monsey halacha line @ 845.Halacha. Or ask your Rov.

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Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
« Reply #112 on: June 28, 2013, 12:43:21 AM »
Sorry to be mean, but halachos cannot be asked from so called I-Rabbis on public anonymous forums. Call the Monsey halacha line @ 845.Halacha. Or ask your Rov.
or start with the wiki

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Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
« Reply #113 on: June 28, 2013, 01:21:09 AM »
Did not have that issue when I was there. Perhaps there is another stair case?




There is alternate staircase but leads only to basement. There are two parts to the hotel im in the tower maybe the other building doesnt have an issue. Will disscuss with hotel tom morn.

Disscussed with LOR certainly better to try and work something out.

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Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
« Reply #114 on: June 28, 2013, 02:39:07 AM »
Sorry to be mean, but halachos cannot be asked from so called I-Rabbis on public anonymous forums. Call the Monsey halacha line @ 845.Halacha. Or ask your Rov.
Or check in the Shulchan Aruch and Poskim.
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Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
« Reply #115 on: June 28, 2013, 01:05:25 PM »
Or check in the Shulchan Aruch and Poskim.
though I do agree with you 100% - people should be more knowledgeable in halacha- many of these new shailos are only discussed by contemporary poskim which always need to be double checked.

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Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
« Reply #116 on: June 29, 2013, 05:50:01 PM »
A dimmer can be mutar lechtichala on shabbos, depends on the type of bulb (intensifying an electric current is not a problem, only if it intensifies a flame or closes additional circuits).
how can you tell him that without knowing the metzius? who said its even a dimmer? its possible (probably even more likely) that some bulbs are on the whole time and other bulbs turn on when motion is detected

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Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
« Reply #117 on: June 29, 2013, 10:47:40 PM »
how can you tell him that without knowing the metzius? who said its even a dimmer? its possible (probably even more likely) that some bulbs are on the whole time and other bulbs turn on when motion is detected
Huh? I said it can be.
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Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
« Reply #118 on: June 30, 2013, 02:02:21 AM »
Just to clarify.

I was not planning on getting a psak haklacha from the forum. Just asking for some help in dealing with this issue which I assume comes up. I also find it helpful to know the different nuances of the metzius and what the possible halachic ramifications of that metzius may be before asking a shayla. But that's just me. I assumed that was at least part of the point of this thread.


At any rate spoke to a manager whowas very helpful and understanding and had engineering disable sensors.   

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Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
« Reply #119 on: June 30, 2013, 02:47:03 AM »
At any rate spoke to a manager whowas very helpful and understanding and had engineering disable sensors.

I have never encountered a problem with hotel staff accommodating requests for shabbos.
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