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www.hotelsnearshuls.com
www.shabbosgetaways.blogspot.com
www.reservekosher.com/listing-great,-kosher-hotel-in-piscataway,-nj-1488.html
www.godaven.com

Halachic info
http://www.star-k.org/articles/kashrus-kurrents/501/the-travelers-halachic-guide-to-hotels/
www.yutorah.org/togo/sukkot/articles/sukkot_to-go_-_5770_rabbi_flug.pdf
www.crcweb.org/ask_rav/shabbosinhotel.php

Dan's AC sensor override (VIP mode) instructions 
Most hotels in Hawaii have an Inncom thermostat. 
To enter VIP mode:
-While you are holding "display"
- Press "off", then
- Press "Up" arrow
-Then release "display"
You still can't open/close the balcony, (It still displays if the balcony is open or closed, but it lets the AC run while the balcony is open.)
 but the AC will run if you leave it open and you won't be trapped in your room.  Plus you can also set the AC to lower temps in VIP mode.

Ideas to enter hotel rooms with electronic locks
-Many like to just tape down the latch hole to ensure easy access  (simplest way is to tape the key card over the hole)
-some will just stuff the hole with tissues (you run the risk of it slipping out)
-others rely on the poskim who allow you to ask a goy (see above)
-exterior portable lock http://www.thexlock.com/
and then there's the best one yet
-Haven't tried it at a hotel but on a cruise I tied a gartel to the inside door handle and left a little sticking out the bottom of the door. I just had to pull the gartel and the door opened. :)


Packing List
challah (4x)                                                        paper plates                             large mixing bowl
wine/grape juice (3x)                                         paper cups                               plastic disposable containers
Plastic silver kiddush cup                                    silver pasticware                      BAGGIES, 3 sizes, tons
neirois (Fri night + Motzei shabbos-2x)              tablecloth (or white towels)     Israeli small/large baggies
matches                                                             white napkins                           tape
empty cans (upside down) as safe holders        shnaps plastic cups                  rope
besomim (cinnamon/cloves)                               shnaps bottle                       timer(s)
havdollah ner (or 2 shabbos ones)                    negel vasser cup                     3prong-to-2prong plug adapters (for timers)
bentchers/zmirois                                              sharp pareve knife
siddurs                                                               cutting mat
tinfoil                                                                  sharp fleishig knife

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Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
« Reply #615 on: July 31, 2018, 10:56:07 AM »
Any ideas for an apartment building with motion sensors that turn on the lights in the hallway? It only goes on by night. I tried testing it to see if I can avoid it turning on, so far I haven't been able to trick it.

I tried speaking to the owner of the vacation apartment I am renting and he doesn't know how to turn it off, and is not willing to regardless...

The heter of the Shevet HaLevi doesn't seem to apply here, since I have Hana'oh since the hallway is dark... Unless if I daven early Friday night, and make it back before it's really dark?

ETA: Just tested it. Turned on even though it is still very light outside.

ETA2: It seems that everyone davens very early here, so it's not dark when we return from shul, so the heter still applies.


I entirely sympathize with you.  I had exact experience years ago and LOR's suggestion was to find someone who didn't have to keep Shabbos to lead us in and out, having them trigger all the lights.  That didn't work out as the dynamics would have involved trusting such person with a key without permission of the airbnb host, which I didn't feel comfortable doing. In the end we experienced a Shabbos locked in together. Wonderful family bonding experience.
I'm not saying that you couldn't find an opinion that would be more lenient - but this was what I was told.

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Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
« Reply #616 on: July 31, 2018, 04:12:44 PM »

I entirely sympathize with you.  I had exact experience years ago and LOR's suggestion was to find someone who didn't have to keep Shabbos to lead us in and out, having them trigger all the lights.  That didn't work out as the dynamics would have involved trusting such person with a key without permission of the airbnb host, which I didn't feel comfortable doing. In the end we experienced a Shabbos locked in together. Wonderful family bonding experience.
I'm not saying that you couldn't find an opinion that would be more lenient - but this was what I was told.
Interesting. I am referring to a very Chassidish kehilla (if you're following my posts). This solution seems to be accepted by everyone (the ETA2).

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Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
« Reply #617 on: July 31, 2018, 05:01:56 PM »
The hallway we had an issue with had no windows so it was pitch dark without the lights. Your situation is different.

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Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
« Reply #618 on: July 31, 2018, 05:31:58 PM »
The hallway we had an issue with had no windows so it was pitch dark without the lights. Your situation is different.
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Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
« Reply #619 on: August 02, 2018, 12:32:13 PM »

I entirely sympathize with you.  I had exact experience years ago and LOR's suggestion was to find someone who didn't have to keep Shabbos to lead us in and out, having them trigger all the lights.  That didn't work out as the dynamics would have involved trusting such person with a key without permission of the airbnb host, which I didn't feel comfortable doing. In the end we experienced a Shabbos locked in together. Wonderful family bonding experience.
I'm not saying that you couldn't find an opinion that would be more lenient - but this was what I was told.

If the hallway would be bright enough it would be a Grama on a Psik Reisha D'Lo Nicha Lei, which is at worst a double-Dirabanan, which is permissible B'Makom Mitzvah. According to some, it could be Muttar LeChatchilla. A dark hallway is worse since it's Neicha Lei. In that theoretical situation, is there a way to install a nightlight into the hallway to make it Lo Nicha?

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Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
« Reply #620 on: August 02, 2018, 01:24:10 PM »
I remember hearing a shiur from R' Veiner from Monsey where he says to walk really slow as if the light isn't on so even if it does turn on it's lo nicha lei. i could be totally wrong though
https://www.torahanytime.com/#/lectures?a=42985
question is at 13.17I did remember incorrectly. he said that if you didn't know there is a light and it turned on, you should walk slowly so at least you don't get any benefit
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Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
« Reply #621 on: August 02, 2018, 08:18:24 PM »
If the hallway would be bright enough it would be a Grama on a Psik Reisha D'Lo Nicha Lei, which is at worst a double-Dirabanan, which is permissible B'Makom Mitzvah. According to some, it could be Muttar LeChatchilla. A dark hallway is worse since it's Neicha Lei. In that theoretical situation, is there a way to install a nightlight into the hallway to make it Lo Nicha?

Yup. That's exactly what I thought of, after the fact.

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Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
« Reply #622 on: January 07, 2019, 03:10:02 PM »
Perhaps we should make a dedicated thread listing all shabbatons/kosher catered? or does it belong here?

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« Reply #623 on: January 07, 2019, 03:37:36 PM »
Perhaps we should make a dedicated thread listing all shabbatons/kosher catered? or does it belong here?

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Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
« Reply #624 on: January 07, 2019, 03:40:14 PM »
This you? Price, caterer, kashrus?
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Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
« Reply #626 on: March 12, 2019, 09:38:19 PM »
Really early stages. New restaurant just open next door to andaz wall street is working out making shul in hotel and restaurant catering shabbos meals.

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Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
« Reply #627 on: March 12, 2019, 09:51:43 PM »
Really early stages. New restaurant just open next door to andaz wall street is working out making shul in hotel and restaurant catering shabbos meals.
i doubt there is a demand in that area