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www.hotelsnearshuls.com
www.shabbosgetaways.blogspot.com
www.reservekosher.com/listing-great,-kosher-hotel-in-piscataway,-nj-1488.html
www.godaven.com

Halachic info
http://www.star-k.org/articles/kashrus-kurrents/501/the-travelers-halachic-guide-to-hotels/
www.yutorah.org/togo/sukkot/articles/sukkot_to-go_-_5770_rabbi_flug.pdf
www.crcweb.org/ask_rav/shabbosinhotel.php

Dan's AC sensor override (VIP mode) instructions 
Most hotels in Hawaii have an Inncom thermostat. 
To enter VIP mode:
-While you are holding "display"
- Press "off", then
- Press "Up" arrow
-Then release "display"
You still can't open/close the balcony, (It still displays if the balcony is open or closed, but it lets the AC run while the balcony is open.)
 but the AC will run if you leave it open and you won't be trapped in your room.  Plus you can also set the AC to lower temps in VIP mode.

Ideas to enter hotel rooms with electronic locks
-Many like to just tape down the latch hole to ensure easy access  (simplest way is to tape the key card over the hole)
-some will just stuff the hole with tissues (you run the risk of it slipping out)
-on cruises, and some hotels, you can use one of those thin refrigerator magnets, put it on the door jamb to cover the hole where the door latch goes.
-others rely on the poskim who allow you to ask a goy (see above)
-exterior portable lock http://www.thexlock.com/
and then there's the best one yet
-Haven't tried it at a hotel but on a cruise I tied a gartel to the inside door handle and left a little sticking out the bottom of the door. I just had to pull the gartel and the door opened. :)


Packing List
challah (4x)                                                        paper plates                             large mixing bowl
wine/grape juice (3x)                                         paper cups                               plastic disposable containers
Plastic silver kiddush cup                                    silver pasticware                      BAGGIES, 3 sizes, tons
neirois (Fri night + Motzei shabbos-2x)              tablecloth (or white towels)     Israeli small/large baggies
matches                                                             white napkins                           tape
empty cans (upside down) as safe holders        shnaps plastic cups                  rope
besomim (cinnamon/cloves)                               shnaps bottle                       timer(s)
havdollah ner (or 2 shabbos ones)                    negel vasser cup                     3prong-to-2prong plug adapters (for timers)
bentchers/zmirois                                              sharp pareve knife                shabbos tissues
siddurs                                                               cutting mat
tinfoil                                                                  sharp fleishig knife

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Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
« Reply #80 on: May 23, 2011, 12:39:49 AM »
I'm glad I practice a different religion from you...
didn't know lubavitch is a different religion.
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Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
« Reply #81 on: May 23, 2011, 12:40:56 AM »
didn't know lubavitch is a different religion.
Lubavitch is the closest religion to Judaism.
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Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
« Reply #82 on: May 23, 2011, 01:03:46 AM »
didn't know lubavitch is a different religion.

My religion is very different than yours, that's for sure. In my religion if I rely on a kula (from my LOR) I don't have to be worried that the reason for the kula might cause me to get a knas.

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Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
« Reply #83 on: May 23, 2011, 01:09:06 AM »
My religion is very different than yours, that's for sure. In my religion if I rely on a kula (from my LOR) I don't have to be worried that the reason for the kula might cause me to get a knas.
seriously dude, you missed the boat totaly. i don't know if i should even try clarifying again. The Kula "DOES NOT" always apply therefore if applied incorrectly may cause you to not be yotzai hadlaks neiros. If you did rely on the kula "when it was allowed" than NO than you would not get a knas.
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Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
« Reply #84 on: May 23, 2011, 01:10:13 AM »
seriously dude, you missed the boat totaly. i don't know if i should even try clarifying again. The Kula "DOES NOT" always apply therefore if applied incorrectly may cause you to not be yotzai hadlaks neiros. If you did rely on the kula "when it was allowed" than NO than you would not get a knas.

So you're suggested that a halachic mistake is grounds for a knas, and I'm saying it doesn't work that way in my religion.

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Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
« Reply #85 on: May 23, 2011, 01:12:01 AM »
So you're suggested that a halachic mistake is grounds for a knas, and I'm saying it doesn't work that way in my religion.
it depends on what you mean by a "halachic mistake". if the mistake is made out of complete ignorance than "possibly".
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Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
« Reply #86 on: May 23, 2011, 01:14:38 AM »
So, back to the topic, how does the AC sensor know if you're sleeping to keep on working?
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Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
« Reply #87 on: May 23, 2011, 01:15:14 AM »
it depends on what you mean by a "halachic mistake". if the mistake is made out of complete ignorance than "possibly".

Well, in my religion we're makil regarding safek (of the Rabbi...) knas (at least we're not quick to point out someone might deserve a knas if we're not even sure about it).

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Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
« Reply #88 on: May 23, 2011, 01:19:07 AM »
Well, in my religion we're makil regarding safek (of the Rabbi...) knas (at least we're not quick to point out someone might deserve a knas if we're not even sure about it).
well that's funny 'cause in my religion were also makil regarding knas. the term is actually "safek d'rabanan lkula" (although there is a shitah which disagrees in this instance).

Also what are you getting so jumpy about, i never said that they'll forsure get a knas all i was pointing out is that according to halacha there is a possibilty. i guess you might call it the uncfromtable truth. not sure what you have a problem with.
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Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
« Reply #89 on: May 23, 2011, 01:19:46 AM »
Lubavitch is the closest religion to Judaism.
Wow, never heard that one before ::)
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Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
« Reply #90 on: May 23, 2011, 01:21:22 AM »
So, back to the topic, how does the AC sensor know if you're sleeping to keep on working?
I've never been in a room with an AC motion sensor AFAIK.  I don't even see how that would work.
Sure, some rooms require a room key in the slot for the AC to work, but that's about it.
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Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
« Reply #91 on: May 23, 2011, 02:17:08 AM »
I've never been in a room with an AC motion sensor AFAIK.  I don't even see how that would work.
Sure, some rooms require a room key in the slot for the AC to work, but that's about it.
The HI in Ashkelon had one. I woke up in middle of the night sweating, and had to wave my hand until it turned on. Pretty inconvenient.
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Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
« Reply #92 on: May 23, 2011, 02:18:44 AM »
The HI in Ashkelon had one. I woke up in middle of the night sweating, and had to wave my hand until it turned on. Pretty inconvenient.
Next time snore louder and breathe deeper, and you won't have to wave your hand?

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Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
« Reply #93 on: May 23, 2011, 02:22:13 AM »
in my personal experience, ive yet to stay in a hotel where candles would stay lit on the porch for more than 10 seconds due to wind
So take along those glass boxes for the menora that the people in Israel use on Chanuka, when lighting outdoors :D

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« Reply #94 on: May 23, 2011, 02:25:22 AM »
Next time snore louder and breathe deeper, and you won't have to wave your hand?
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« Reply #95 on: May 23, 2011, 10:34:36 AM »
The HI in Ashkelon had one. I woke up in middle of the night sweating, and had to wave my hand until it turned on. Pretty inconvenient.
Interesting...I still don't think they're very common.
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Shabbos at a hotel master thread
« Reply #96 on: June 02, 2013, 08:19:40 PM »
I have been doing quite a bit of research on planning a family shabbos at hotel, and I noticed that there seems to be quite a bit of info on DDF, but it's scattered around in dozens of threads.
Being that questions pertaining  to this topic seem to pop up quite often, I figured we could gather all info deemed appropriate (electronic locks, shuls nearby, check-out on shabbos, kosher food, etc.) into one thread..
A couple of suggestions:
1-Please post personal experiences with set-up and arrangement of such a shabbos
2- rather than turn this into the halchic thread, lets stay on track and stick to practical suggestions  and/or psak heard from or published,and let everyone follow what they wish
3- post any links to other sites you deem helpful
4- Sefer torah info (gemachs etc.)
I'll start.
Recently, I planned a shabbos with 2 siblings (2 married couples and 1 single) at the Eatontown Sheraton. I found the hotel to be extremely shabbos friendly, complete with manual exterior doors and manual room locks. We rented 3 rooms for shabbos itself and ate in my deluxe  room (360 sq ft) we slid the 2 beds over to the wall and there was plenty of space for a 6 foot folding table. (we asked permission before bringing it in) We  set up hot plates in our room and each room had a refrigerator.
We davened at the  Whalepond shul, and found davening and the crowd there to be very pleasant. The shul is about a 20 min. easy walk from the hotel, and there is a park half way between the hotel and the shul.
We only kept one room until the end of shabbos, which i wouldn't do again.
I am in middle of planning larger family shabbos  at a hotel( payed with points) complete with a minyan and meeting room and will keep posting as I gather more info. As i have posted elsewhere on the forums, the NJ sheratons (edison, eatontown, meadowlands, and AC) wouldnt let me bring outside food and insisted that I use a kosher caterer through their caterer for all food in public areas (ie:meeting rooms) of the hotel which will run $1500 (union wait staff required) before food. Marriott (Courtyard, Fairfield, and Residence Inn) have been much more reasonable and allow outside food as long as you sign a liability waiver . Rates on meeting rooms at Marriott seem to run about $500 for Fri. afternoon through Motza'ai Shabbos ($300 for shabbos and $150 for Fri. +tax.). This is still a work in progress and will keep posting as it progresses
Links I have found helpful (some have been posted in other threads)
www.hotelsnearshuls.com
www.shabbosgetaways.blogspot.com
www.godaven.com
www.star-k.org/kashrus/kk-TheTravelersHalachicGuidetoHotels.htm
www.yutorah.org/togo/sukkot/articles/sukkot_to-go_-_5770_rabbi_flug.pdf
www.crcweb.org/ask_rav/shabbosinhotel.php

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Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
« Reply #97 on: June 02, 2013, 08:26:27 PM »
Wow great work!


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Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
« Reply #99 on: June 02, 2013, 09:30:58 PM »
Bonus points if you find my AC Balcony override instructions :)
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