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WhatsApp is stopping support for all Symbian, Nokia S40, BlackBerry phones. Phones running older versions of Windows, Android and iOS operating systems will also not be supported.
The shutdown of the service for these devices and platforms will happen at the end of the year, December 31, 2016. https://www.whatsapp.com/faq/en/general/20951556

Android users still on Android 2.1 and Android 2.2 are no longer be able to use WhatsApp.

Windows phone users will have to upgrade beyond Windows Phone 7.1 to continue enjoying services. iOS 6 are not be supported, which  affects those Apple users who are holding back from updating the OS.

The devices that WhatsApp will no longer be supported are: Nokia Asha 201, Nokia Asha 205 Chat Edition, Nokia Asha 206, Nokia Asha 208, Nokia Asha 210, Nokia Asha 300, Nokia Asha 301, Nokia Asha 302, Nokia Asha 303, Nokia Asha 305, Nokia Asha 306, Nokia Asha 308, Nokia Asha 309, Nokia Asha 310, Nokia Asha 311, Nokia Asha 515, Nokia Asha 500, Nokia Asha 501, Nokia Asha 502, Nokia Asha 503, Nokia Asha 230, Nokia C3-00, Nokia C3-01, Nokia X2-01, Nokia X3-02, Nokia X2-00, Nokia X7, Nokia E6, Nokia N8, Nokia C6, Nokia C7, Nokia E7, Nokia 500, Nokia 600, Nokia 603, Nokia 700, Nokia 701, Nokia 808, Nokia 5800, Nokia 5530, Nokia 5230, Nokia 5233, Nokia 5235, Nokia N97, Nokia N97 mini, Nokia X6, Nokia X5-01, Nokia C6, Nokia C5-03, Samsung i8910 Omnia HD, Sony Ericsson Satio, Sony Ericsson Vivaz, Sony Ericsson Vivaz Pro, Nokia 5700, Nokia 6110, Nokia 6120, Nokia 6121, Nokia 6124, Nokia 6700, Nokia 6290, Nokia E51, Nokia E63, Nokia E66, Nokia E71, Nokia E90 Communicator, Nokia N76, Nokia N81, Nokia N81 8GB, Nokia N82, Nokia N95, Nokia N95 8GB, Nokia 5320, Nokia 5630, Nokia 5730, Nokia 6210, Nokia 6220, Nokia 6650 fold, Nokia 6710 Navigator, Nokia 6720, Nokia 6730, Nokia 6760 Slide, Nokia 6790 Surge, Nokia C5, Nokia E52, Nokia E55, Nokia E72, Nokia E73, Nokia E75, Nokia E5, Nokia N78, Nokia N79, Nokia N85, Nokia N86 8MP, Nokia N96, Samsung GT-i8510, Samsung GT-I7110, Samsung SGH-L870, Samsung SGH-G810 and Samsung SGH-iNNN.

UPDATE: You won't be able to use WhatsApp on the following platforms for:

Nokia Symbian S60 after June 30, 2017
BlackBerry OS and BlackBerry 10 after December 31, 2017
Windows Phone 8.0 and older after December 31, 2017
Nokia S40 after December 31, 2018
Android versions 2.3.7 and older after February 1, 2020

Personal info sharing
WhatsApp will share your phone number with Facebook, you have 30 days to opt-out. https://www.whatsapp.com/faq/general/26000016

Transferring Chat history
check out http://www.whatsapp.com/faq/en/general/21002842

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Whatsapp App Discussion Thread
« Reply #2620 on: October 05, 2021, 11:05:59 AM »
So, you're proving my point that something is wrong at FB?
When is the last time that everything consumer facing at Google or Microsoft went down? Versus the several times a year that everything consumer facing goes down at FB?
Not opining about the other outages, I never read their postmortems and I would be talking out of my backside. I'm talking about this specific outage: it's not an architectural issue (though I'll acknowledge that until I read the postmortem I can't be 100% certain).

1) Facebook's technology department is literally a global leader and state of the art (again from deep, personal experience with their tech, e.g. academic white papers and open source projects). So I'm finding very hard to accept that there's something inherently flawed here. I believe strongly that process breakdown and human error was the cause here. (Maybe that's the arrogance you're referring to? That they push things to production without fully testing? But that's a problem in any software in the world - find me a company that doesn't [occasionally] push partially untested code to prod...)

2) (Just so this defense doesn't come off as me being a Facebook fan: I think Facebook is destroying (likely destroyed) our society and I pray that the company is dissolved and shut down.)
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Re: Whatsapp App Discussion Thread
« Reply #2621 on: October 05, 2021, 11:06:32 AM »
Lol outages like this happen all the time at other big tech companies, they're just not as consumer facing so you're not aware of it. For example, Microsoft's Azure has network related outages all the time (talking from personal experience), but they rarely make the news because they don't directly affect as many people.
Very rarely does the entire infrastructure go down. Only parts of it will.

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Re: Whatsapp App Discussion Thread
« Reply #2622 on: October 05, 2021, 01:49:55 PM »

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Re: Whatsapp App Discussion Thread
« Reply #2623 on: October 05, 2021, 02:27:52 PM »
Additional info https://engineering.fb.com/2021/10/05/networking-traffic/outage-details/

" In the end, our services came back up relatively quickly without any further systemwide failures."
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Re: Whatsapp App Discussion Thread
« Reply #2624 on: October 05, 2021, 02:38:43 PM »
" In the end, our services came back up relatively quickly without any further systemwide failures."
He means to say that their systems didn't crash from all the messages being delivered and everyone trying to access it at once.

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Re: Whatsapp App Discussion Thread
« Reply #2626 on: October 06, 2021, 02:55:16 PM »
At the end of the day, the evolving nature of tech makes it more prone to human error than other things. At the same time, it's nature also enables those human errors to have much bigger and swifter repercussions than in other things. Nasty combination.
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Re: Whatsapp App Discussion Thread
« Reply #2627 on: October 08, 2021, 01:23:32 PM »
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Our generation is struggling to navigate the unprecedented proliferation technological breakthroughs. Yet we are not the first to confront what progress should mean, its impact on how we spend time, and what our ultimate goals should be. 

The central story of our Parsha is the “hard reset” that God performed on the world, undoing all that He had created and restarting the world anew. The Torah tells us that Hashem took such a drastic measure because the world had become filled with corruption and moral depravity. The Gemara (Sanhedrin 108a) makes a mysterious comment – “the generation of the flood became corrupt as a result of the great blessing that God had bestowed upon them.” Which blessings are the rabbis referring to and how did they corrupt humanity?

Rav Pam explains, the inventions of the plow and other tools were the great blessing that rabbis referenced.  Yet, instead of becoming empowered, liberated, or enriched by these innovations, they became corrupt.  These inventions, these gifts from God increased productivity, improved efficiency, and yielded more free time.  This time could have been used constructively, productively, and meaningfully.  Instead, the generation used their newfound downtime for corrupt activity.  The breakthrough and advancement could have brought spiritual ascent, instead they brought moral decline.

Every single day, something is invented meant to make our lives more noach, easier.  They are designed to free up precious time.  The question is, do they? Do we fill that time meaningfully and mindfully or is that time squandered on mindless behavior?  Perhaps it is no coincidence that Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp were wiped out and then flooded with messages in the week we read Noach. A reminder that a generation is defined by what it does with the blessing of progress it experiences and the free time it discovers.

Technology can either enslave or liberate, free up or eat up our time, move us forward, or take us backwards.  Moments like a worldwide outage can and should be opportunities to consider our own relationship with technology and time.
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