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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #885 on: March 26, 2019, 04:57:49 PM »
https://passportnews.co.il/אל-על-הדרימליינר-787-8-ייכנס-לשירות-בחודש-נ/

Interesting write up about LY 787-8, does say that will be 238 seats (only 20 Business)
First route YYZ with BOS,ORD,SFO to follow

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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #886 on: March 26, 2019, 05:13:34 PM »
https://passportnews.co.il/אל-על-הדרימליינר-787-8-ייכנס-לשירות-בחודש-נ/

Interesting write up about LY 787-8, does say that will be 238 seats (only 20 Business)
First route YYZ with BOS,ORD,SFO to follow

Per Routes Online https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/283529/el-al-outlines-787-8-network-from-nov-2019/

El Al Israel Airlines earlier this month filed planned operation with its new Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner aircraft, set to enter service in the 4th quarter of 2019. The configuration of the 787-8 is C20W35Y183.

Initially the airline filed Toronto and Paris CDG as first 2 destinations to receive 787-8 service, however this has been expanded in last week’s schedule update.

As of 24MAR19, planned 787-8 network includes the following.

Tel Aviv – Boston eff 15DEC19 3 weekly (until 29MAR19)
Tel Aviv – Chicago O’Hare eff 22MAR20 3 weekly (1 weekly from 29MAR20)
Tel Aviv – Mumbai eff 02APR20 1 weekly
Tel Aviv – Paris CDG eff 16DEC19 2 weekly (Additional frequency scheduled from 29MAR20)
Tel Aviv – San Francisco eff 30MAR20 3 weekly
Tel Aviv – Toronto eff 17NOV19 3 weekly (until 26MAR20)

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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #887 on: March 26, 2019, 05:22:10 PM »
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11.TLV YYZ   -  CO2/PAX* 402.11 KG ECO, 804.21 KG PRE                           
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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #888 on: March 26, 2019, 05:23:12 PM »

The configuration of the 787-8 is C20W35Y183.
Proves how successful PE was on the 787-9! An added row (in comparison to the -9) for a smaller aircraft and a stingy 20 seats in J...

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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #889 on: March 26, 2019, 05:28:28 PM »
How can they operate SFO with 20 business seats... beats me ua on 777 is 60 seats

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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #890 on: March 26, 2019, 05:29:57 PM »
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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #891 on: March 26, 2019, 05:38:23 PM »
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hint hint - now the non-TAs can know where the marshals sit...

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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #892 on: March 26, 2019, 05:38:32 PM »
How can they operate SFO with 20 business seats... beats me ua on 777 is 60 seats

I guess 20 seats for a cabin makes for more personalized service than 60. Though it really depends on the FA/passenger ratio.
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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #893 on: March 26, 2019, 05:44:30 PM »
I guess 20 seats for a cabin makes for more personalized service than 60. Though it really depends on the FA/passenger ratio.

My point was that LY is competing with UA on this route and they not even offering daily which UA does. UA fills those Business seats and thats were the profit is so how they are planning to make a profit with 20 Business seats seems weird...

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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #894 on: March 26, 2019, 05:47:29 PM »
hint hint - now the non-TAs can know where the marshals sit...
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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #895 on: March 26, 2019, 06:03:18 PM »
From DDMS: "El Al is slated to receive a total of 4 of the 787-8s and 17 of the larger 787-9s"
I believe the total order was for 16 aircraft between the 2 sizes, no?

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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #896 on: March 26, 2019, 06:05:55 PM »
From DDMS: "El Al is slated to receive a total of 4 of the 787-8s and 17 of the larger 787-9s"
I believe the total order was for 16 aircraft between the 2 sizes, no?
Correct according to wikipedia.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Al
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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #897 on: March 26, 2019, 06:47:19 PM »
My point was that LY is competing with UA on this route and they not even offering daily which UA does. UA fills those Business seats and thats were the profit is so how they are planning to make a profit with 20 Business seats seems weird...
They're obviously not primarily targeting the business market for this route.

Maybe they see PE as where they will make profits.
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Re: El Al 787 Dreamliner Master Thread
« Reply #898 on: March 26, 2019, 06:49:58 PM »
They're obviously not primarily targeting the business market for this route.

Maybe they see PE as where they will make profits.
Never gonna happen
Keep in mind they are launching in May with a 787-9 so will be 10 months with "regular" Dreamliner

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