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Re: Will the LY Dreamliner have a First Class cabin? (a little hint)
« Reply #285 on: June 21, 2017, 09:24:42 AM »
Great news!!!

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Re: Will the LY Dreamliner have a First Class cabin? (a little hint)
« Reply #286 on: June 21, 2017, 09:31:04 AM »
Elal ordered 3 more 787s at PAS

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Re: Will the LY Dreamliner have a First Class cabin? (a little hint)
« Reply #288 on: July 03, 2017, 06:43:21 AM »
just got an email from elal
from September until oct 29 it will fly to Europe
from oct 29 to EWR
from mar 18 to HKG
and now its on sale to EWR
$1750 in premium economy which is very decent pricing

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Re: Will the LY Dreamliner have a First Class cabin? (a little hint)
« Reply #289 on: July 03, 2017, 07:23:23 AM »
it also seams like they didnt raise the price of business class award tix on the flights with the 787. It may make for a good redemption option if there is nice availibility

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Re: Will the LY Dreamliner have a First Class cabin? (a little hint)
« Reply #290 on: July 03, 2017, 07:36:21 AM »
Do you think there will be any special fanfare / perks for the very first September London flight?  Or will they reserve that for the real inauguration?

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Re: Will the LY Dreamliner have a First Class cabin? (a little hint)
« Reply #291 on: July 03, 2017, 07:39:42 AM »
Nice.
So it looks like the first flight to LHR will be Sep 12 and will fly daily on the 10:15am and return on the 3:25pm, and on occasion on the 5:15 outbound (e.g. Oct 1)
Starting to EWR on Sun Oct 29. Starting Oct 30 the flight will depart TLV 1:10am instead of 12:30am (arrival only 5 minutes later than the old schedule. Does the 789 fly that much quicker than the 772?) Thursday EWR - TLV will be moved from 2:15pm to 7:15pm (that leaves UA 84 as the only normal nonstop for Thursday in the winter). Hopefully they'll change that quickly.
Current Matmid rates to NY:
Economy - 700
Premium Economy - 1100
Business - 2000
Availability in J is even pretty decent (sorry pessimists):
Ex-TLV isn't available the first 30 days but then looks like this:
November:
 30
December:
1, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 14, 20, 21, 27

Ex EWR:
October:
31
November:
7, 15, 19, 20, 21, 22, 27, 28, 29
December:
2, 4, 5, 6, 10, 26, 27, 31
(most dates have only 1 seat available so far)

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Re: Will the LY Dreamliner have a First Class cabin? (a little hint)
« Reply #292 on: July 03, 2017, 07:47:48 AM »
On the London route, you can purchase PE seating during the trial period for $200 o/w.
Interesting to note, that the TLV - LHR route is marketing as a 789 straight through Mar 22 but PE on that route is still not being sold as a separate cabin

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Re: Will the LY Dreamliner have a First Class cabin? (a little hint)
« Reply #293 on: July 03, 2017, 08:09:29 AM »
Starting 787 service to HKG on Mar 18.
Best of all! LY will be increasing frequency on the TLV - EWR route to 11 flights weekly (twice daily, besides Friday) starting March 25.

Source: http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/273620/el-al-outlines-boeing-787-routes-from-sep-2017/

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Re: Will the LY Dreamliner have a First Class cabin? (a little hint)
« Reply #294 on: July 03, 2017, 08:16:37 AM »
Starting 787 service to HKG on Mar 18.
Best of all! LY will be increasing frequency on the TLV - EWR route to 11 flights weekly (twice daily, besides Friday) starting March 25.

Source: http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/273620/el-al-outlines-boeing-787-routes-from-sep-2017/
Looks like they are right!
If you check the April 2018 calendar, they introduce a second dreamliner route to EWR, leaving Israel at 13:50, and returning from EWR at 21:00

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Re: Will the LY Dreamliner have a First Class cabin? (a little hint)
« Reply #295 on: July 03, 2017, 08:17:39 AM »
On the London route, you can purchase PE seating during the trial period for $200 o/w.
Interesting to note, that the TLV - LHR route is marketing as a 789 straight through Mar 22 but PE on that route is still not being sold as a separate cabin

Any idea what Y to biz would cost?

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Re: Will the LY Dreamliner have a First Class cabin? (a little hint)
« Reply #296 on: July 03, 2017, 08:43:37 AM »
Any idea what Y to biz would cost?
Same as regular. 200 matmid or 70 + $55 (must be M class or higher)

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Re: Will the LY Dreamliner have a First Class cabin? (a little hint)
« Reply #297 on: July 03, 2017, 08:53:16 AM »
Looks like they are right!
If you check the April 2018 calendar, they introduce a second dreamliner route to EWR, leaving Israel at 13:50, and returning from EWR at 21:00
So how many 787 will they be putting on the EWR route when they have the 2 daily flights?
If its just 2 then even the smallest delay will throw them off schedule on the EWR-TLV 21:00 flight

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Re: Will the LY Dreamliner have a First Class cabin? (a little hint)
« Reply #298 on: July 03, 2017, 08:55:43 AM »
And the 787 flies faster.... LY 27 went from 1230A/700A to 110A/705A. Had that when LOT was forced to change from a 787 back to the 767 (when the 787s were grounded) and we had to revalited many tickets as they had to leave a half hour earlier

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Re: Will the LY Dreamliner have a First Class cabin? (a little hint)
« Reply #299 on: July 03, 2017, 08:56:48 AM »
it also seams like they didnt raise the price of business class award tix on the flights with the 787. It may make for a good redemption option if there is nice availibility

Business - 2000

Actually it will be going up to 2250 for "ticketing" after Oct. 29 (JFK too). Until then, you can still purchase at the old rate.
Upgrades will also be going up for ticketing on/after Oct 29:
Until Oct 28 - 700 or  225 + $200
Starting Oct 29 - 900 or 300 + $300